I'm going to start with Snowy's counter-argument because it is probably the most common negative side to having more discords, it crowds your sidebar with servers if you chose to join a lot of them. I think this is very valid, but I would argue that trying to keep everything within one main discord is even more crowded and disorganized. For a community as big as ours, we should not have all of our discord-based supported games inside of one discord because it becomes very hard to navigate with so many different channels, its overwhelming to many new members and even seasoned members.
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Perhaps the poll should be rephrased to ask if Nintendo should be a supported game group rather than just a discord. Keep in mind there is a difference between discords for supported games that have dedicated servers like FiveM, and discords for supported games that cannot actually have a dedicated server like Nintendo, Overwatch and Genshin.
Are you referring to recent expansions into other games? because this is objectively untrue. (Not trying to be rude.)
I'm just saying that we are at like, 6 discords for the normal player in our community and even more test and special ones if you're more involved in the community. It's asinine to keep making more and more discords (even for something like Nintendo, which I believe to be way too broad of a subject for an entire eGO discord) when in reality, we could make channel categories for each supported game and throw them in there and let players toggle visibility on the stuff they want to see.
I have been in consolidated communities before. The thought of having multiple active voice chats for a bunch of different games may sound nice at first, but it is not. It is absolute chaos, the discord will have twice as many channels as it has now, and even if it was organized to the best of our ability it will be painful on the eyes and intimidating.
Separation and allowing players to pick what they want to see is the fundamental part. Leadership who could see every channel is going to be rough, but hey, that's the way the cookie crumbles. By having multiple outside Discords, you give less of a reason for people to join the main Discord because they already chat with their main group of people within that privatized game discord. The reason most people cling to TeamSpeak is twofold: they like the voice quality and everything you could possibly need was in that ONE server. It made things straightforward and easy. Needed to talk to Minecraft people? Join the Minecraft channel. Wanted to talk to Member Services? Join the cozy lounge. It was an All in One solution. Nowadays, I have to server hop to find someone and join that channel just to talk with them while my other friends are off in another server.
Genuine question: how many Overwatch players actually join the forums and/or the main discord? Isn't that the main goal? Yes, it's cool seeing Overwatch or BF or Genshin grow but what's the point if they aren't integrating into the community? The only real thing that ties Overwatch to eGO is the name, if you were to drop the name, change the roles, delete #ego-news, nothing changes. In places I expect there to be advertisements for our other servers, there's nothing. You get a blue hyperlink in #information that a normal player could just miss entirely. You could see something #announcements but you have to scroll up hard for it.
I don't think so. I think, from a general perspective, you'd actually have better recruitment numbers because you have more people in the main discord than a fresh one. 4.1k > 120. I'd pick the 4.1k because there's more people there. In fact, I think there's more creativity in how we can make the main Discord better with ideas from all of the other discords mixed together to create a cohesive experience for everybody. It's worked in other massive communities, no different here.
Dr. Havok
if we can rephrase this poll a bit, perhaps we should just be asking if we should support Nintendo as a game group, doesn't matter if it's as its own discord or merged, that can be determined later on if it gets accepted.
kuantum
puts it, if you go from the OW Discord to FiveM’s you’ll find completely different players. Each discord splits the community up, which is great if your expectations and infrastructure is intended to be that way.
I can get you the actual numbers if you are really curious about how many people join Overwatch, but we have an active recruitment team that not only recruits for the Overwatch server but goes out of their way to try to get people to sign up for their e-tag on the forums. (Shoutout to @b t the is doing a great job.)
Overwatch rules are almost exactly the same as the eGO Code of conduct with only a little extra relating to Overwatch. It is a little unfair to compare to CS rules because a sever like Jailbreak and TTT is way more complicated with their specific rules. Having a discord without a rules tab would not make sense.
Suggestions for Overwatch are meant to be on the forums we just don't get them that often. We don't have a dedicated server so we don't have a changelog, however, whenever we add something to the server or something changes there is usually is a forum post that comes along with it (Recent post about PokeTwo for example.) Ban contests and requests are both done the same way as it is in other games, we just don't ban as many people, and not many people contest.
This is where I have to say you went a little far. Saying there is nothing to Overwatch except the eGO name is just simply not true and slightly offensive to the people who are working hard to recruit people within Overwatch.
I really want you to elaborate a little more on this if you could, are you implying Overwatch is gatekeeping players? I really don't know what you mean by this.
In my mind each Discord is effectively its own community. Sure, it’s all under “EdgeGamers” but as
For those asking “why not”: it takes time and effort to make a new discord. Setup, bots, moderation, promotion, engagement, etc.
I personally would probably interact with a Nintendo specific EdgeGamers server. But, I don’t currently see the reason why we couldn’t just have a #nintendo, #valve, or #microsoft under a Gaming Section.
My point is that if you didn't have an RC team, you'd see less than stellar forum registrations. b t does a great job, I'm not going to say he isn't. I'm just saying there's not a lot of recruiting going on outside of the RC's, whether that be links to the main discord and other discords, or posts to the forums themselves.
I'm not saying to make a lot of custom rules. I'm just saying that to view the eGO code of conduct (without being forced), you'd have to visit the website. You might say that's a bit backwards to go to the forum to view rules, but it gets people's foot in the door to the heart of the community.
I'm sorry you think it's offensive, but from where I'm standing, you could take the "EdgeGamers" out of the title, and the server could stand on it's own and do it's own thing. There's next to no advertisement for the main discord, you can search "discord.gg/edgegamers" and see one event post from Martin back on 11/24/2021 and one from Wish about a month before that. The RC team is doing a good job with recruiting players, sure, but there's no other advertisement for our forums except via the #ego-news section which links the news posts.
I'm explicitly stating that Overwatch (with the exception of the RC team) could do more to link to our forums and other discords more than it does currently. I'm also explicitly stating that we should at least have a real conversation about consolidating everything.
I mean if you come by TTT, MG, Surf (in general any CSGO server, with a small exception on JB), you'll notice that it's mostly swarmed with people who won't really stay around for more than e.g. a week per say. Other than that, its the typical ban evaders going around the servers and a group of small timezones where the servers get filled (mainly NA prime time) for a while.
