Counter-Strike Global Offensive Jail Server Map Purge

[Polar Bear]

I see nobody has talked about spy v spy in this thread yet.

I think it checks negative for all the criteria.

1. It lacks any visual appeal completely, the entire map (besides outside) is grey.

2. Lacks a good variety of engaging games. 90% of the time climb (trash climb no matter which one it is) or deathcrate are played first. Total of 11 (I think) games, none very difficult or original. It is also difficult to navigate the map since it is so small (think climb, having to put the Ts in there and then run in guns blazing to hopefully not get bombed, or brining the Ts outside through the tiny, curved hallway).

3. Arguably one of the most unbalanced maps on the server with vents that go directly to armory. The entire time the map is played is usually a rebel fest.

4. Definitely a popular map (its in the top 10 played according to game.me) probably because its easy to rebel on. If you like this map for any other reason than to rebel, I'd love to know what that reason is.


That said, obama needs to go.

Dust wouldn't be so bad if if had more games.

What's carceris?

Cant remember the last time I have played pipeline.

I couldn't agree more with SPY vs SPY being a bad map in its current state - especially because I (think) it's the smallest JB map and is basically CT killing simulator with how crazy easy it is to rebel. (almost want this gone more then Obama right now....)

Obama has potential to be a good map but right now it's just not. If I can remember correctly it has 12 games and 3 of those are climbs which is almost the only thing ever played.... (if the round lasts for more then 2mins) and 3 of those are also LR type games which without even saying the name of the game everyone knows it as the easiest game to ghost on. (if the prices were randomized every time on this game and would be seen after a button press it could be a fun game) the map also has a VERY boring map design and the games are also all easy which is unfun

Pipeline gets played every now and then and I think its a decent map definitely don't see the map often though

Dust 2 definitely could use a rework can be toxic like Obama as well

I would love to see an event where only low pick rate maps can be played (with the hope that would spread popularity to them)

This last part is slightly off topic but I think Death crate is a toxic unfun game and would make every map better if it was removed (Notoriously kills of more then its supposed to making CT's stop it early or way to late) and is a toxic game to play

 

[carter227]

I feel like a lot of these maps people will just have biases towards. In the end of the day, I feel like a map shouldn't be removed unless it is very glitchy, or of course other reasons. I remember when Moonjail and SpyvsSpy was removed for a while due to crashing.

For example, I see Obama on a lot of these lists. Obama still gets voted. Which in return should not be removed. I know people hate that map, but a lot of people hate Quake, and I don't see that on anyone's list. If people don't like Obama then people won't vote for it. However, it is obvious that a good majority of people still like the map. A lot of people do not like it because the lack of games and how easy it is to rebel on. I have seen it when there are good/caring CT's on Obama, it is moderately hard to rebel on. Unlike on Quake. It is the exact opposite. If there are good T's on, it is basically impossible to counter them, especially with rules that are starting to aid the T's, like the camping armory TP one.

Another example on how it is sort of biased to remove maps are when maps are just underplayed. I was on yesterday and the map was Pleasework420 and MS brought up the idea of removing it. This really made no sense in my eyes as I see the map as underrated, above average, and just unknown to most. Most underrated maps/ underplayed maps are great when the server pop is low. Like Pleasework420, Renegade, King Phoenix, and Mist.

 

[QuickiexD]

I've always said even if a map is total garbage town, it should be kept on unless it breaks the server having it.

I'm still sticking with that today. I don't know why we should be removing maps when we could be adding more.

ratio go back to lgsr

Anyways I used to heavily disagree with this take but people end up changing which maps they "like" constantly, and there's only like 2 or 3 maps that are genuinely disliked by a good majority of the community. Just keep the maps because there will always be someone upset if we remove it and we should focus on adding new maps instead.