Not Planned Jailbreak ~ Give O's teleport powers

[Baefy]

Hi yes im suggesting this because theres many times EACH day that people get stuck and just won't slay or anything. I think it would help out and make the server a bit more of a friendly seeming place rather than a newbie getting stuck then having at least 1 if not more admins start telling them to slay, we could just teleport them out and save everyone time and save the stuck players from having to unnecessarily spectating. asda

Now I know what you're thinking : NO WAY ITS GOING TO BE ABUSED SO MUCH WE HAVE TOO MANY O'S OMG ABUSE ABUSE ABUSE !!!!!!!

Well my friends, Let me introduce to you ~ The, Report a player section of the forums. A place where you report those who abuse the privilege of having admin.

In all seriousness this should be a thing because it'll help the server a ton and we wouldn't have to be like "ope is a manager on or not?"

 

[MS]

No

 

[Baefy]

No

0 Reasoning. A+

 

[BoyPhoenix]

I have no idea why LE decide to not give it to Os but they been saying No since I became an admin or more

 

[Baefy]

I have no idea why LE decide to not give it to Os but they been saying No since I became an admin or more

Yeah at least a reasoning would be nice. Like just report report them if it doesn't go well.. If it really does somehow get out of hand then maybe we need to look at the admins we have currently. Otherwise I don't see a reason currently not to give O's the power to help out the server.

 

[BeastTheNinja]

i have the same feeling what LE have so its a -1 for me i dont need to say why other than use the swap or kick after warning, its distruption of a gameplay

 

[Baefy]

i have the same feeling what LE have so its a -1 for me i dont need to say why other than use the swap or kick after warning, its distruption of a gameplay

Ok so -1 to helping out the server and more punishment? Got it.
~Edit I want REAL reasons yall~ I have yet to see a single one

 

[Rick Astley]

+1 ima get all the homies that are Os to abuse that

 

[Jacko]

-1/+1

I don't think we should give O's extra powers mainly because of how many we have. Giving these powers will lead to abuse and simply being able to report the admin won't be enough to suppress the abuse.

I am in favor of giving Advisors extra powers in their respective servers. That way we can help in cases like you mentioned when a manager is not on as well as to show LE that Advisors are capable of having a bit extra power similar to how we do with the eG ----> eGO transition.

 

[Luna]

No for a few reasons, but mainly because we usually try to keep permissions uniform across all of our game servers. If they have access to TP on Jailbreak then they'd have access on all other servers. This would further include other games.

Having non-standard access to commands that are present on all source game servers (e.g. teleport) is something that will just cause problems down the line. Harder to create standard documentation and admin guides for, harder to onboard new admins.

It makes a lot more sense to keep access to commands standard and consistent across all of our servers. For that reason, and the reason that this issue can already be resolved through the use of other admin commands, I'm against it.

Also how often does this happen. Once a round, once a map, once a day?

 

[Baefy]

-1/+1

I don't think we should give O's extra powers mainly because of how many we have. Giving these powers will lead to abuse and simply being able to report the admin won't be enough to suppress the abuse.

I am in favor of giving Advisors extra powers in their respective servers. That way we can help in cases like you mentioned when a manager is not on as well as to show LE that Advisors are capable of having a bit extra power similar to how we do with the eG ----> eGO transition.

I see what you're saying but theres so few advisors, 90% of the time if an advisor is on, a manager is already on too. Usually homies playin together.

Also how often does this happen. Once a round, once a map, once a day?

I like and appreciate the reasoning and the thoughtful answer. However this last part is laughable imo. Especially certain maps its much more prone to happen on and so it can happen e v e r y s i n g l e r o u n d. But other than that theres stuck spots all over. Too many to fix, but too few to take out of rotation. But for real this happens much much much more often than you'd think.


Also people really this scared of abuse? If admins wanted to abuse they'd do it. And again when it comes to not important things, like TPing your friend in the air to fall to their death, instant demote. Show we're serious about no bullshit.

I Just really think it would look better for us to be able to help out rather than have to begin the punishment process as someone is confused why an admin is looking at them clearly stuck.

 

[Moto Moto]

I'd just like to TP people who are actually stuck in the floor/ceiling because of a bug and not a persons fault. With what command that is I don't care but I feel so sad for them everytime

 

[juGGle]

Hi yes im suggesting this because theres many times EACH day that people get stuck and just won't slay or anything. I think it would help out and make the server a bit more of a friendly seeming place rather than a newbie getting stuck then having at least 1 if not more admins start telling them to slay, we could just teleport them out and save everyone time and save the stuck players from having to unnecessarily spectating. asda

Now I know what you're thinking : NO WAY ITS GOING TO BE ABUSED SO MUCH WE HAVE TOO MANY O'S OMG ABUSE ABUSE ABUSE !!!!!!!

Well my friends, Let me introduce to you ~ The, Report a player section of the forums. A place where you report those who abuse the privilege of having admin.

In all seriousness this should be a thing because it'll help the server a ton and we wouldn't have to be like "ope is a manager on or not?"

I don't see a reason why admins shouldn't have a tp command. I know that it can be abused, but admins should be the most mature members on a server, and display professionalism. If admins are caught abusing things like a tp command, actions are taken against them. I agree more people on JB should have access to the command.

No for a few reasons, but mainly because we usually try to keep permissions uniform across all of our game servers. If they have access to TP on Jailbreak then they'd have access on all other servers. This would further include other games.

Having non-standard access to commands that are present on all source game servers (e.g. teleport) is something that will just cause problems down the line. Harder to create standard documentation and admin guides for, harder to onboard new admins.

It makes a lot more sense to keep access to commands standard and consistent across all of our servers. For that reason, and the reason that this issue can already be resolved through the use of other admin commands, I'm against it.

Also how often does this happen. Once a round, once a map, once a day?

To the point of it not being used often, yeah that is true, but there are still scenarios where it could be useful for admins to have the command. Doesn't matter how much it may or may not be used, as long as it is being used correctly.


To my understanding all admins undergo training on each game mode they are admins on, admins should have also seen just about every scenario possible, so I do not think there should be a reason not to give admins more permissions.

 

[Baefy]

I don't see a reason why admins shouldn't have a tp command. I know that it can be abused, but admins should be the most mature members on a server, and display professionalism. If admins are caught abusing things like a tp command, actions are taken against them. I agree more people on JB should have access to the command.

To the point of it not being used often, yeah that is true, but there are still scenarios where it could be useful for admins to have the command. Doesn't matter how much it may or may not be used, as long as it is being used correctly.


To my understanding all admins undergo training on each game mode they are admins on, admins should have also seen just about every scenario possible, so I do not think there should be a reason not to give admins more permissions.

This post chefs kiss

I'd just like to TP people who are actually stuck in the floor/ceiling because of a bug and not a persons fault. With what command that is I don't care but I feel so sad for them everytime

also this is exactly how I feel. But then theyre just confused and end up delaying and then we gotta punish which is booty and like ive been saying very unfriendly to new players

 

[zach]

Even as someone who has been an O for 2-3 years, this probably is not a good idea. I much rather we fix the maps/glitches then give all O's this power. People should be making bug reports on maps that have this issue so it can get updated. I feel like it would be kind of a mess of a bunch O's trying to teleport people and it would generally just cause more issues in my opinion.

 

[santa]

Even as someone who has been an O for 2-3 years, this probably is not a good idea. I much rather we fix the maps/glitches then give all O's this power. People should be making bug reports on maps that have this issue so it can get updated. I feel like it would be kind of a mess of a bunch O's trying to teleport people and it would generally just cause more issues in my opinion.

This subject gets brought up all the time. If we added this, we first would have to release a video showing how to properly tp people, second what if you accidentally tp them to a different person? I myself am victim of tping to a wrong person and ending the round completely, and I have much more experience with commands as I was an EC and then EC manager for over a year and a half and mistakes happen. Now multiply my mistakes times the close to 1000 admins that there are. This would cause more problems than problems being solved. Secondly no matter how much you say you won't abuse, you will. We are humans and abuse is fun. When there are no other admins on how do we know u wont abuse that power? There are many admins that have been caught abusing less because they thought there was nobody on that could report/take a video of them. Now giving them an actual ability that can completely ruin a round or someones warden round. Those are just 2 reasons but this is a big no from me.

If someone is stuck say you are sorry that it happened to them move them to spec and let them rejoin T. You will then report this bug here and the tech team " MS is goated" will try to fix the problem. If you still see that the problem is not fixed in a while you are allowed to PM the CS le team. They do not bite and most of the time will respond but @DDZ ZioNeX might crash one of his many non crashed cars into you. Hope this helps

 

[ngen]

there is a bury command in sourcemod that allows you to unstuck people who spawn in the ceiling idk who gets access to that tho

 

[santa]

there is a bury command in sourcemod that allows you to unstuck people who spawn in the ceiling idk who gets access to that tho

managers+

 

[Moto Moto]

This subject gets brought up all the time. If we added this, we first would have to release a video showing how to properly tp people, second what if you accidentally tp them to a different person? I myself am victim of tping to a wrong person and ending the round completely, and I have much more experience with commands as I was an EC and then EC manager for over a year and a half and mistakes happen. Now multiply my mistakes times the close to 1000 admins that there are. This would cause more problems than problems being solved. Secondly no matter how much you say you won't abuse, you will. We are humans and abuse is fun. When there are no other admins on how do we know u wont abuse that power? There are many admins that have been caught abusing less because they thought there was nobody on that could report/take a video of them. Now giving them an actual ability that can completely ruin a round or someones warden round. Those are just 2 reasons but this is a big no from me.

This makes sense tbh. I sometimes forget how many admins we actually have. Still could give it to advisors because we do not have a lot of them (I think I know only 3 atm). But that could change in the future ofcourse idk what the plans are with advisors and how many they want

 

[santa]

This makes sense tbh. I sometimes forget how many admins we actually have. Still could give it to advisors because we do not have a lot of them (I think I know only 3 atm). But that could change in the future ofcourse idk what the plans are with advisors and how many they want

21 advisors yet most of them are not trained in cs "abuse". This already happens when people get promoted they always abuse on cs even when told not too. If possible having advisors tp wouldn't be the worst thing of all time but still iffy for me. Every one of them would abuse when on so all would have to be trained.