ALL HL2-based games lockup

gamblor

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So something on my system must be seriously hosed. Everything was working fine yesterday and I was able to play TF2, but today nothing is working. TF2, Portal, they all launch but then they all lockup and lag continuously. Each one works for about 5-10 seconds and then it locks up for 20-30. This just happens over and over again. As soon as it corrects itself and lets me play for a few seconds (and I think it's over), the games lockup again.

I first noticed this in Linux today and I couldn't figure it out so I rebooted into Windows. I launched the game and got the same problem, which led me to believe it must be a hardware issue. No way 2 separate instances of Steam suddenly became corrupt. I had no power surge or anything...everything was running fine yesterday, I closed Steam, and when I tried to open it again this morning it just didn't work. I didn't change any video drivers or anything. In fact, since exiting Steam yesterday I haven't even touched my computer. I was gone all day and used my laptop to check email when I got home last night. The desktop system has not been touched or changed in any way.

So I took compressed air and cleaned out my case. I stuck a large floor fan in front of my case with the side panel removed, and I downloaded a program called "speedfan" to monitor the temperature of things inside my case. It's not getting hotter than about 55 degrees celsius and that was only the GPU. With the floor fan on it, it will stay about 49-52 degrees. All other temps are in the 30 and 40 degree range...definitely acceptable.

Still, it's not working. I took a video to show you what I'm talking about (if you right-click and save it you will likely get MUCH better download speeds):

http://slackbox.homelinux.org/tf2-problem.wmv

If you watch the video you will also notice when I alt+tab out of the game that hl2.exe is only using about 27% of the CPU on the system, and I still have 830+ MB of my 2GB of RAM free. So if the CPU isn't pegged, there is plenty of RAM free, and I haven't touched the system since it was running yesterday...ANY clue what on earth this could be? The only thing I can think of is that some hardware (maybe my graphics card?) is failing in my system.

FYI, I tested this on my laptop and was able to play for several minutes without issue so I can only assume that is working. I tried completely uninstalling and reinstalling steam on my desktop system and it still fails after the reinstall. I think I'm going to go run memtest86 just to make sure.
 
do a system restore
I really don't see the point in doing this. It fails in the exact same way in both Linux and Windows. Same machine but different OS (I triple boot WindowsXP, Fedora 9, and Ubuntu 8.04). Ubuntu and Windows use completely different files to run Steam too. It's 2 separate Steam directories with separate files on separate partitions even! It would be incredibly unlikely that both of them somehow got corrupted. They are different filesystem formats too (one is NTFS, one is ext3). I even reinstalled Steam on Windows today and it didn't work. I'm really thinking this is a hardware related issue.

memtest86 doesn't show any errors at all. I guess I'll see if someone around here has another PCIe card that I could swap out with mine to see if that makes any difference. I'm assuming it is the culprit until proven otherwise. All apps seem to work great except Steam apps. I guess I can reboot into Windows and try the Crysis demo or C&C Generals to see if either of those have problems. If so, then I know it has something to do with processing 3D graphics and it will be more obvious the video card is somehow to blame (be it hardware or drivers or voodoo).
 
Well that was interesting. Crysis locked up in much the same way until I went into task manager and killed the process. C&C Generals locked up as well. When I tried to get to the Windows desktop via the Windows key or alt+tab the screen went black, and then the computer rebooted. Not good at all...
 
Hmmm... it wouldn't be fragmented files, because Linux and Windows would have to have separate Steam folders (at least on my system they do... so it could be a failing HD, RAM issue, or GPU issue. I would just start playing with those, run some benchmarks, maybe see if everest comes up with any issues. The games you mention are all taxing on all of those parts, so issues would definitely show there first, and since it happens in both Linux and Windows it definitely sounds like a hardware issue...
Good luck!
 
Well.. My ideas are taken already, I was going to suggest do a system restore or defragment your harddrive.. I don't know man, sorry. :(
 
It's OK. I think it's something more serious going on like my graphics card is crapping out. It happens in both Windows and Linux, and it happens with EVERY game that I try to play. Like I said, last time I tried playing a game I wasn't even able to alt+tab out and kill the process...the whole system wound up restarting without me doing anything. :(

I think it's the video card.
 
It really sounds like a hardware issue - it isn't related to steam since other games crash too, and it probably isn't drivers since you've got multiple installs giving you the same problem.

My general advice in these situations is to try a known good part, say in place of your graphics card. Perhaps you have an older one sitting around from a previous upgrade? Or a friend can loan you one for an hour or so? It hurts to buy a new part only to realize that isn't your problem :(
 
Yeah agent, I didn't see your post until now but this is exactly what I tried. Some of my friends in grad school work on graphics stuff. nvidia just gave them both a 9800 GX2 for free. Just sent it to them. I tried to put it into my system and it needed both an 8pin and 6pin power connector. I only had a 6pin so I couldn't even power the thing! It was massive to and barely fit into my case! He also brought over an ATI card but it was the same thing...huge and needed both 8 and 6pin power (that card was also free).

Anyway, when I tried to launch TF2 and show my friend what it was doing, I noticed artifacts on the screen for the first time. The card was only at 56C but with artifacts now appearing on the screen, I am certain it's an issue with the video card.

So I will be saying goodbye to my 7600GT, and hello to this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500023

Gone are the days of a 256MB card. Now I will have an overclocked 8800GT (660MHz instead of 600) with 1GB of RAM. I'm hoping it ships out today! :)
 

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