Gun of the day (or gun envy?)

[Sanguinary]

I decided after having chats with several people in the dust 2 server to create a gun of the day(ish) post. Feel free to post your own. You may also post one you find interesting or want as well. To start it off, the chauchat machine gun.

 

[Sanguinary]

Todays gun is the Stoeger STLR-4. This is a luger chambered in .22LR and produced from 1969-1985.

 

[Sanguinary]

Todays gun is the Hydra BMP-23. It is a 5.56 bullpup style gun, with a swiveling receiver allowing it to be used with either hand easily.

 

[WiredWrong]

Nickname: Mighty Mouse
Make & Model: Ruger LCP .380 (Gen 2)
Carry Holster: Desantis Nemesis
Mag Carrier: Wilderness Basic Pocket Mag Pouch
2 additional OEM 7 round mags with pinky extensions rest in the BPMP.
Carry load: Underwood 90gr XTP (SKU: 110)
Mods: Hogue HandAll grip sleeve, all the MCarbo extra power springs, stainless guide rod, HD takedown pin. Primary mag has a Magguts spring, giving 7+1 while still being flush to bottom of grip for maximum concealment. Front sight post slightly painted with vibrant red nail polish.

Carried nearly every single day for the past 13 years, as my primary backup or deep concealment firearm.

 

[Sanguinary]

Todays gun is the M3 grease gun. It is a .45 acp sub machine gun.

 

[Sanguinary]

Today we have the Suomi kp/-31, a Finnish designed 9mm smg.

 

[Sanguinary]

Today we have the Winchester model 1897 shotgun, trench variant with bayonet. It is a pump action, external hammer 12 or 16 gauge designed by Browning and was produced from 1897 to 1957.

 

[WiredWrong]

Today we have the Winchester model 1897 shotgun, trench variant with bayonet. It is a pump action, external hammer 12 or 16 gauge designed by Browning and was produced from 1897 to 1957.

What a fucking beauty that is!

 

[Sanguinary]

What a fucking beauty that is!

It sure is! I have an original full size one and I have a heat shield/bayonet lug for a conversion. I just can't convince myself to cut it up though. I need to find a cheap repro to do it to.

 

[WiredWrong]

My first rifle when I was about 10 years old. Not sure the of the exact model name (maybe a Mark 1 at that time), but I know it was a Savage, 22LR, bolt action, black synthetic stock, with two - 10 shot short banana magazines. Looked exactly like this. A 500 count box of Remington Thunderbolt .22LR was only a handful of dollars all those years ago. You could shoot for hours, as fast as you could run the bolt and reload those 10 rounders! Taught me about patience, trigger control, and accuracy.

 

[Sanguinary]

My first rifle when I was about 10 years old. Not sure the of the exact model name (maybe a Mark 1 at that time), but I know it was a Savage, 22LR, bolt action, black synthetic stock, with two - 10 shot short banana magazines. Looked exactly like this. A 500 count box of Remington Thunderbolt .22LR was only a handful of dollars all those years ago. You could shoot for hours, as fast as you could run the bolt and reload those 10 rounders! Taught me about patience, trigger control, and accuracy.

Love a good .22. Nothing better to learn on and practice fundamentals. I have no clue what the model I learned on was. It was a semi auto, tube fed, and had a basic scope. A Remington Speedmaster maybe? I still shoot .22 frequently as it is the only method to plink cheaply. Plus, I love the arcade feel of it sometimes. In fact, I just picked up a few more 10/22s recently.

 

[Sanguinary]

Todays gun is the Roth-Steyr Model 1907. Instead of typing I'll take a quote out of wideners blog:

The Roth-Steyr M1907 was a semi-automatic pistol the Austro-Hungarian Army carried in World War 1. It’s believed to be the first self-loading pistol a major army adopted. Plants in Steyr, Austria, and Budapest, Hungary manufactured the sidearm.


The M1907 used the 8×18.5 Roth M7 cartridge. Why have you never heard of it? It’s a caliber that was unique to the 1907. No other weapons utilized it. The pistol had a barrel that rotated 90 degrees during firing. With the bolt surrounding the barrel, they could both move to the rear when the shooter fired the gun. During this process, the pistol ejected the spent shell casing, and a new cartridge inserted.


The Model 1907 frame held a built-in magazine in its pistol grip. Allowing the operator to load a 10-round “charger” through the open action.

 

[Sanguinary]

Todays gun is the Japanese Hamada. This is a WW2 era semi auto, Japanese made copy of a Browning. It took 7.65 Browning rounds initially, and then swapped to the Nambu rounds. Their own design sucked, so this was to be a supplement.

 

[WiredWrong]

My first shotgun when I was about 11 years old. Remington 870 Express, chambered in 20 gauge, youth model; so I think the barrel length was 21" or 22" instead of the normal length of 26". Smaller shotguns chambered in .410 were too expensive to shoot, and damn hard to hit with due to the smaller shot size. Full size 12ga guns were far too heavy, too long, and too much recoil for a young kid to be putting a ton of shells through. This shotgun struck a balance between being lightweight enough that I could hold it up and swing it out without much fatigue, but not too light that it couldn't handle the recoil. Despite being a good fit, I would still bruise the hell out of my shoulder, often shooting 200+ target shells on the weekends shooting clays, trap, skeet, with my father. I estimate I probably put close to 5k to 6k rounds down the gun without any breakage, but would have issues with the extractor sticking. Three years after owning, I would regrettably pawn the gun off to help fund my travels to my first Counter Strike LAN tournament, traveling from Michigan to Louisiana, to the LA Mercenaries CS tournament, co-hosted with [C.O.P.S.] Clan. I considerably overestimated the travel expenses, so upon returning flush with cash, I went back to the store to see if they still had it, and unfortunately it was sold...oh well. Fond memories still remain.

(LA Merc "Armageddon" LAN Event, I think this was... June 2002. From Left to right; Ninja, MillerTime, Me (age 14, drinking a BAWLS, my CS name at the time was Colt.45_9/11), and TexasLawDogg. Most folks attending were from the LE/Mil community and combined the LAN event with a fundraiser for the family of a recent fallen Deputy out of Georgia. Notice Lawdogg's pager on his left side? lol, man how time flys. He had a 1911 on the right side. He asked me when we first met, "Son, which colt .45 do you prefer? (45 Long Colt SAA or .45 ACP 1911) Answer me truthfully now or I'll lock you up!" Nervously, I said "both!" He smiled and said "Good answer! You're free to go!"

 

[Sanguinary]

My first shotgun when I was about ...

Wired, you have quite the knack for telling a good story. I appreciate you telling it. I myself have very few stories or histories with guns when I was younger. I had some exposure, but never got into them as much until I started getting older. I shot targets and hunted occasionally, but nothing serious. I never actually owned a shotgun until my grandfather passed away. By the time I would have been old enough to shoot it, he had long been unable to shoulder it. It never came out of the closet until he passed and it went to me. It is an older 870 wingmaster and now one of my most prized guns.

I never traveled to any LANs other than local. Around that time I was playing with a clan called Shadow Clan [SC]. They were a national/semi international clan. They played a multitude of games, but the main one I remember was Halo. I too was one of the young members, with most members having kids themselves and being a fair bit older. It was quite the time to be a gamer. It was a real family type feel and even had in person clan get togethers with clan t shirts made. It was quite the time to be a gamer. I don't know when they folded exactly, but I left leadership and then completely in 2009ish when I found myself running low on time for gaming. I finally picked up CSS again a few years ago and the Dust2 server really gave me those vibes I missed from that time of gaming.

Before I read the rest of the post, I saw the picture and went "I bet thats Bawls." I was big into paintball around that time and Bawls became a major sponsor. Between gaming and paintball, Bawls was everywhere. I thought it was good, especially for the time. Now, we have so many better options LOL.

 

[Sanguinary]

Todays gun is the SKS. It is a Soviet designed rifle in 7.62. It has a long and varied history that is worth reading up on.

 

[WiredWrong]

Todays gun is the SKS. It is a Soviet designed rifle in 7.62. It has a long and varied history that is worth reading up on.

Love the SKS! I've owned two of them over the years. Paid $350 for the first one, and $400 for the other. Although I do remember years prior hearing how these could be had for about $100, and they came with free ammo at the time, just so stores could get rid of them easier! Both of mine were Chinese, Type 56, from the Jianshe factory. One was more of a brighter blonde color with a long pointed spiker style bayonet. The other was a darker brown with a tint of red and featured a blade style bayonet. Both were in immaculate condition, from the bluing to the wood stocks. Half the fun of owning old military surplus like this was taking them apart on a weekend, learning how they dissembled and operated, and spending hours to clean out all the nasty and sticky cosmoline that was used to preserve them. Eventually I would come to want and own AKs...something that was easier to load, rather than the 10 round stripper clips the SKS operated on from it's integral box magazine. So I sold them, and got more for them than what I paid for, so I was happy with that. The most important thing on an SKS to remember is; they have a free floating firing pin. You'll need to take apart the bolt and make damn sure the firing pin and channel are clean and clear of any debris, otherwise the firing pin could stay protruding outwards, and when you let the bolt and carrier go forward upon charging the rifle, it could fire from 1 or up to 10 rounds without actually pulling the trigger!

Sang, I appreciate you making this thread and showing your view on firearms, many of which I haven't heard of before! Wingmasters are beautiful guns on their own, but add in the sentimental value of it being your grandfather's, and that just makes it even more special!

 

[Euphoric]

Love the SKS! I've owned two of them over the years. Paid $350 for the first one, and $400 for the other. Although I do remember years prior hearing how these could be had for about $100, and they came with free ammo at the time, just so stores could get rid of them easier! Both of mine were Chinese, Type 56, from the Jianshe factory. One was more of a brighter blonde color with a long pointed spiker style bayonet.

That is really cool, I almost got my hands on a Type 56. Crazy that they used to go for $100 lol

 

[Sanguinary]

Love the SKS! I've owned two of them over the years...

Sang, I appreciate you making this thread...

That is really cool, I almost got my hands on a Type 56. Crazy that they used to go for $100 lol

The days of a cheap SKS are long gone unfortunately. Most have been molested or "Bubba'd" by this point if they aren't a collector piece. I've never owned one, but do think they are pretty neat. Just wish the price wasn't what it was. Free float firing pins like that design certainly seem like a shortcoming. One of those pieces of design where long term use and/or use conditions aren't accounted for.

Talking about taking apart guns and learning them, thats truly one of my favorite parts of owning them in general. I like upgrading and building different versions of new stuff. A lot of the process is like adult Legos. Once you have the tools, most of it is pretty easy. I also like the challenge/thrill of making something old work again. I got an old Ithica lever action 22 recently and it wasn't in good firing condition when I got it. They were a poor design to begin with as Ithica warrantied many, and when they did, they replaced them with a different model. I took it out and it had issues loading the round from the mag tube to the chamber. I took it apart found the problem, ordered the part, and fixed that issue. Then it would intermitently fire. I narrowed it down to either a firing pin or hammer spring. For the price, I ordered both and swapped them. The new hammer spring was much longer than the old one, making believe that to be the issue as the firing pin looked pretty close to the new one. We will have to see if thats the fix on my next outing.

This thread had been a lot of fun and been making me think back to some of the cool guns I've seen or heard of. I'm enjoying your history and takes on ownership of these pieces. The sentimental value of guns can easily exceed the true value, just as that wingmaster has.

 

[Sanguinary]

Todays gun is the Agar gun (aka Coffee mill gun for its shape). It was a short lived, hand cranked machine gun that fired a .58 caliber round. It had swappable barrels and air cooling design from the crank attachment. Very unique design. It was ahead of its time in some aspects. Another gun thats certainly worth looking deeper into.