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Hi all, I just got a $600 scholarship in the mail and can't think of anything better to spend it on other than my aging PC. I plan on upgrading the mobo, CPU and OS.

Here's the plan:
Case: Generic ATX case w/ Custom Fan Mods
Motherboard: ASUS P5QL Pro
Old MB: MSI RC41OM
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/ AC Freezer 7 Pro
Old CPU: Intel P4 2.6GHz
Memory: 2GB DDR2
Video Card: nVIDIA GeForce 7600GT 256MB
Sound Card: Onboard
Primary Hard Drives: Hitachi Deskstar 164GB
Primary Optical Drive: LG DVD RW
Power Supply: Cooler Master 430W
Operating System: Vista Ultimate 64bit
Old OS: XP Professional

I can still get a copy of XP x64, would this be better than Vista?
Thanks
 
Do not get any 64 bit operating system yet! You will have nothing but problems.

Windows XP is the only way to go, Vista has way too many problems. Stick with XP 32 bit until 2010 when Windows 7 is released.

BTW aren't scholarships supposed to be sent on school? :)
 
There's no reason for you to upgrade to a 64 bit OS - XP Pro will do just fine. Upgrade your memory to 4 GB instead or maybe consider a new video card.
 
Go with 64 Bit. Nothing wrong with it. Nothing wrong with Vista either.
(Please stop complaining about Vista for god's sake)

The upgrade path you've chosen is solid.
Plus they just lowered the price of those CPU by another 10 dollars and you can actually take advantage of it right now.

Your hard drive seems........... small......... Especially when we have iPods that are reaching 160 gigs. It's all personal usage but I'd definitely look into it for a bigger hard drive.

Your memory is actually fine and even if you do get the 64 Bit, 2 Gig won't hurt but having another extra 2 gig will really shine. There was a deal of the week last week on TR for 4gigs of memory for 50 dollars so you can do the math on just purchasing 2 more gigs.

Lastly, your video card is extremely under powered. Getting a 4850 for around 150 bucks or even 130 these days is easy. With that, you MIGHT want to go with a bigger power supply. 550W is efficient for a single card configuration from my past usage.

Edit: Gratz on the scholarship!!
 
For $600 I would almost say just start from the ground up.. Then you would have two full computers to work with.

Lets try this, shall we?

Case: Antec 300 ATX
MOBO: ASUS P5QL PRO
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 @2.53GHz
HS: AC Freezer 7 Pro
GPU: EVGA GeForce 9800 GT 512MB
RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2-800
PSU: OCZ StealthXStream 500W
HDD: WD Caviar 500GB 7200 RPM
DVD?RW's: (2x) LG 22X DVD?R[W] DVD Burner

Total Price: $600 USD (after Mail-In-Rebates, before Shipping)

Not bad in the least!

I changed that Q6600 to a E7200 as, in my opinion, by the time true "Quad Core Support" comes around in games, the Q6600 is going to be so outdated it won't be worth it. Better to get a cheaper Dual Core that can overclock better.

That case is totally interchangeable to whatever you think looks best, just make sure it's big enough. Also up to you about the Optical Drives (that price above included two of those LG's).

I'll leave the acquiring of a new OS up to you, if you want one (I suggest Vista x64).

Finally, I'm sure someone will comment on that 9800GT... Yes, I know that it is the same card as the 8800gt (that I would have normally suggested), but most reputable 8800GT manufacturers (including my beloved EVGA) have been removed from Newegg with notice to buy a 9800GT... Besides, name the card what you wish, $100 after rebate is a great price none the less.

EDIT:
...You're Canadian... *Hits head against hard brick wall*

Disregard all that.

Also, like others have noted, that GPU you listed (9500GT) is NOT a gaming card. I suggest at least a 8800GT/9800GT if you are looking for a good upgrade.
 
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Do not get any 64 bit operating system yet! You will have nothing but problems.

Windows XP is the only way to go, Vista has way too many problems. Stick with XP 32 bit until 2010 when Windows 7 is released.

BTW aren't scholarships supposed to be sent on school? :)


Have you even tried Vista x64?

Have you EVER EVEN TRIED IT!?!?

Vista is good x64 allows ram advantages

Trust me I'm using it right now and it works like charm...

Drivers for new things like really new thigns will be out about 1-2 weeks after XP Drivers are out....

Vista is GREAT!

TRUST ME
 
I'd like to note that there's a rather steep learning curve from XP to Vista. Took me about a week, but now I love it. I would never go back to XP willingly.

~Gooda~
 
^^ i agree there i LOVE it way better then XP it may have a few bugs but nothing is perfect ....... except PORTAL (Insert epic music hear)
 
I currently have a rig with 8800GT.

It is a great card to work with but it is DEFINITELY showing weakness and the age already. I would steer clear out of them unless you plan on playing games in lower res or not too many new games.

I would say go at least with 9800GT if you choose the nVidia lineup.

For ATI, I wouldn't touch anything except the 4870. That's a personal opinion. I know for a fact that 4850 is decent but that's just me.

So all in all, I do not recommend 8800GT anymore. It used to be a pretty powerful, well priced card and it still is, but it does not have what it takes to take on the future things.
 
[The 8800GT] is a great card to work with but it is DEFINITELY showing weakness and the age already. I would steer clear out of them unless you plan on playing games in lower res or not too many new games.

I would say go at least with 9800GT if you choose the nVidia lineup.

*Hits head against hard brick wall... again*

Someone didn't read my previous post. The 9800GT is the EXACT SAME CARD as the 8800GT, just with a die shrink to 55nm, added Tri-SLI compatibility, and a new cooler - Same old performance, though, with a new name to make people think they are getting an upgrade.

So all in all, I do not recommend 8800GT anymore. It used to be a pretty powerful, well priced card and it still is, but it does not have what it takes to take on the future things.

And what exactly is wrong with it? To be honest, I hate it when people just upgrade to upgrade. A 8800GT/9800GT would give him a huge performance increase from his 7600GT for only ~$100 USD. My card (8800GTX - bought ~6 months before the 8800GT was released) has about the same performance, and on that single card I'm still maxing out every new game that's come out with a lot of AA/AF tacked on as well. Crysis has been the only game that makes it work, and even that I can play on all "Very High" settings, 4xAA @720p, ~24FPS (smooth enough for SP).

Maybe I'll consent that it's showing it's age if you can show me a game other than Crysis that brings the card down, but until that happens, the 8800GT/9800GT remains my price/performance recommendation - Anything beyond that counts as splurging in my book.

I don't mean to sound angry here, and I don't have anything against the occasional hardware splurge (heck, I bought a 8800GTX...), I just didn't want the OP to read your post and come out thinking a 8800GT wouldn't be a good upgrade for him, as it definitely is.

EDIT:
Rereading what we both wrote, I want to make it clear that I understand it's not the most future proof card anymore, and it IS starting to show it's calender age (been out about a year now - almost 2 years for my GTX). As for it's cycle age, though, it's still very much alive and kicking.

To be honest, this chip shouldn't have lasted this long, still dominating like it has. I think it just goes to show how much consoles have limited the PC gaming scene... Only Crytek has been willing to make a true next-gen game built on what PC hardware should be able to handle easily by now. As the money is in console games, no other developer has been willing to push graphics beyond the reach of what a console port can handle - it's too much work for such little profit return. Since there are no new games coming out that demand higher performance, both NVidia and AMD are perfectly content selling gamers year old technology as new, without spending on R&D to improve the actual tech. I'm afraid that until a new generation of consoles comes around, the high-end PC market is going to be a little slow in growing.

Still, though, more to my original point and thought process: You are NOT going to get a future proof machine for $600 CAD. You can, however, get a pretty kick-*** system that can handle every game currently out on the market - hence my 8800GT recommendation.
 
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*Hits head against hard brick wall... again*

Someone didn't read my previous post. The 9800GT is the EXACT SAME CARD as the 8800GT, just with a die shrink to 55nm, added Tri-SLI compatibility, and a new cooler - Same old performance, though, with a new name to make people think they are getting an upgrade.

Actually, most of the 9800GTs are 65nm still. Very few are 55nm.

~Gooda~
 

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