there ya go anthemjack, but seriously i would suggest looking at both blackfriday.info or bfads.net & check out their deals. im gonna go 2 best buy for the sandisk sansa 8gb mp3 player (cause u can add an additional microsd card for additional storage, ipod cant say or do that, not 2 mention that the sansa will be cheaper & has more playability time than ipod) so booya!!!