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ok im trying to build a new rig, i have compiled a list of hardware that im probably going to use and i need ur input, again i want this rig to be strictly for gaming and some pointers that i want to know about is the 32 bit/ 64 bit bs which is kinda confusing.... is it just the operating system or what? cause i can only use 4 gigs with 32 bit and 8 gigs with 64 bit help me out here.. here is what im planing on buying



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I didn't look at the hardware much, but am here to sort of answer your 32/64 bit question. 32 and 64 bit are the different flavors you can get your operating system in. Since most processors support 64 bit right now, the only real concerns with it are program support and RAM. If the machine is going to be mainly gaming then I would assume 64 bit is you best bet. And yes 32 cuts RAM off at 4gb but 64 bit goes much further than 8gb.

If you are planing on sticking xp then don't go 64 bit, the support was terrible and it never got better. I would recommend either 64 bit Vista because the support is really good and it runs well enough, or wait to get 64 bit Windows 7. If you are building it now go with 64 bit Vista. It's just the best choice you can make for future-proofing and for your OS.
 
PuddinPop said:
I didn't look at the hardware much, but am here to sort of answer your 32/64 bit question. 32 and 64 bit are the different flavors you can get your operating system in. Since most processors support 64 bit right now, the only real concerns with it are program support and RAM. If the machine is going to be mainly gaming then I would assume 64 bit is you best bet. And yes 32 cuts RAM off at 4gb but 64 bit goes much further than 8gb.

If you are planing on sticking xp then don't go 64 bit, the support was terrible and it never got better. I would recommend either 64 bit Vista because the support is really good and it runs well enough, or wait to get 64 bit Windows 7. If you are building it now go with 64 bit Vista. It's just the best choice you can make for future-proofing and for your OS.
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32bit cuts of at 3.2GB to be exact ;)
 
•Jv•;711243 said:
32bit cuts of at 3.2GB to be exact ;)
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It actually does support 4gb of RAM, but you don't get it all reported for various reasons such as the OS reserving it for other things. You can make a 32 bit Windows OS report all 4gb of RAM but it requires turning some stuff off that is convenient to have one.

Edit: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291988 This will explain some of what is required to have 4gb of ram report in a windows OS.
 
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whenit comes to GFX card i wouldnt buy that 9800gtx

these are its stats
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 9800 GTX+
Core clock 738MHz
Stream Processors 128
Memory
Memory Clock 2200MHz
Memory Size 512MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR3

i WOULD buy this card
HIS Hightech H487QT512P Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported IceQ4+ Turbo Video Card

these are its stats
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer ATI
GPU Radeon HD 4870
Core clock 780MHz
Stream Processors 800 Stream Processing Units
Memory
Memory Clock 4000MHz
Memory Size 512MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR5

yes its a little more expensive but you will be much happier longer
 
why get a 730a chipsset , its old , go with at least the 780a , waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better .ande dude , spend extra on your cpu , a phenom II will own a 9950 all day , even the tri cores .
 
chief said:
whenit comes to GFX card i wouldnt buy that 9800gtx

these are its stats
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 9800 GTX+
Core clock 738MHz
Stream Processors 128
Memory
Memory Clock 2200MHz
Memory Size 512MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR3

i WOULD buy this card
HIS Hightech H487QT512P Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported IceQ4+ Turbo Video Card

these are its stats
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer ATI
GPU Radeon HD 4870
Core clock 780MHz
Stream Processors 800 Stream Processing Units
Memory
Memory Clock 4000MHz
Memory Size 512MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR5

yes its a little more expensive but you will be much happier longer
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the specs can say what they want i benched a similar rig with that ati card vs my xfx 9800 gtx+ , mine was the same score , cept it ran8 c cooler :)
 
but , going 750 + will give you less strain on the psu , spend a few more bucks will save you alot in the longrun. and fyi , a 9800gtx+ or greater reaaaaaally doesnt need sli , you could play everyhing out now on high no issues , i run sli for only one reason , so i can say i do :)
 
_Xx_HeX_xX_ said:
but , going 750 + will give you less strain on the psu , spend a few more bucks will save you alot in the longrun. and fyi , a 9800gtx+ or greater reaaaaaally doesnt need sli , you could play everyhing out now on high no issues , i run sli for only one reason , so i can say i do :)
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HAHAHAHHA dude thats awsome LOL , ya im thinking about doing SLI just so i have it lol but thanks guys for your input, il definitly get a better chipset and a powe5r supply over 700 watts. thanks again.
 
don't focus on just the watts of the power supply, look at how many amps are on the 12V rails, and also buy a quality brand (antec, corsair, ocz).
 
I wouldnt reccomend using sli or xfire when building a new rig. A lot of games dont support or have trouble with multiple cards. Its better just to spend your money buying a better card. Why not get either a 4870 or a gtx 260 or gtx280. They are all good cards and quite faster than a 9800gtx+.
 
smoochee said:
I wouldnt reccomend using sli or xfire when building a new rig. A lot of games dont support or have trouble with multiple cards. Its better just to spend your money buying a better card. Why not get either a 4870 or a gtx 260 or gtx280. They are all good cards and quite faster than a 9800gtx+.
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really i thought that the 9800's are the top of a line
 
9800 gtx+ are juust fine , they play everything i can throw at it in 1080 p with full everything and 16x AA :) and yes amps are very important u could have a 2000 watt psu and wih only 16 amps your screwed :) my suggestion is silverstone , i love their products
 
im not saying their better or worse , but save yourself some money one 9800 gtx+ will do you just fine
 
Yea you do need sli or crossfire. They are both nice but can have problems with some games. One 9800gtx+ wil do you fine and if you prefer ati a 4850 is pretty much the same performance as 9800gtx+.
 
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