How Nintendo killed hardcore gaming

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This is one of the new articles from ECA which I found interesting. I also figured that since it was 2 pages long, why not post the link:

http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/300491/hardcore_gaming_isn_t_dying_--_it_already_dead

 

[Kognit0]

I'm too lazy, sorry I can't share your joy :-D

 

[king killer]

my link didnt work?

 

[foxhound-KD-]

Maybe the wii killed hardcore gaming on their consoles but nintendo along with atari started the whole movement away from the arcades and getting games into the homes and revolutionized gaming with the 2600 and then the original nes then once pc's and the internet came along it has changed into something we never could have imagined or only dreamed about playing pong or asteroids.

The article just seems to be ranting on about bringing video games to the masses and the onslaught of casual gamers but imo this is what changes the landscape of gaming for the better on the whole and creates a larger genepool if you will for games and gaming systems to develop, Nintendo created gaming with the nes for the casual gamers and their families, people become hardcore if you will after first being a newbie, it is a natural progression but nintendo has taken a different course the the other consoles, good , bad , we will see but it did resurrect and almost dead system/company.

 

[FreakingHell]

lol wut? Staying up playing the original Zelda 'til 4AM IS hardcore gaming. CS:S? Pfft.

 

[PeterGriffin]

nintendo didnt kill hardcore gameing it just open a new market for the very casual gamers

 

[mad pistol]

Last time I checked, PC's aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Maybe consoles are going to go chiefly casual gaming, but PC's will never have a truly casual gaming experience.... unless you consider Bejeweled and Zuma on that list.

 

[Beta]

Hardcore gaming? A game is a game. If someone had as much fun playing Hello Kitty: Island Adventure as the guy playing CS:S, i dont see an issue. This is why the gaming scene is so messed up, everyone shelters themselves from opening up to a new audience.

 

[RedOne]

I think the Hard Core Gamer is alive and well !

 

[xenophek]

I agree with Peter. Us real gamers aren't going anywhere. After reading that article, I don't see myself saying, "You know what? I think I'm going to go buy a Wii. No sense in fighting it." But rather, I see myself buying a better mouse so I can kill you faster.

Hardcore gaming will not change. All Nintendo is doing is bringing video games to people that previously would not play, because they're too casual. That article gets a very regal thumbs down from me.

 

[RobInactive]

I'm sorry but i still think that not including the pc out of the 3 consoles nintendo is the only compnay to actually produce even one hardcore game this gen, legend fo zelda twilight princess. I wouldn't call halo players ect hardcore, they are casual teengaers, who arn't hardcore gamers but do play games in their freetime. It's basicly the casual market of teenagers, the teenagers that wouldn't of played games 5-10 years ago.

 

[FreakingHell]

nintendo is the only compnay to actually produce even one hardcore game this gen, legend fo zelda twilight princess.

qft!!!

 

[xosniper]

The title should read : "How Nintendo killed the Arcade"

 

[xenophek]

I wouldn't call halo players ect hardcore, they are casual teengaers, who arn't hardcore gamers but do play games in their freetime.

Heh, then you haven't seen a real group of geeks hit Halo. My friends and I have pulled all night Halo (1, 2, &3) shindigs. I mean 14+ hours of straight Halo. It's not fair to say that Halo isn't a hardcore game. The XBox 360 has a ton of "hardcore" titles.

 

[RobInactive]

meh i think we should end this before it turns into a console flamewar, cos i strongly disagree xenophek.

 

[Rellik]

Hardcore gaming? A game is a game. If someone had as much fun playing Hello Kitty: Island Adventure as the guy playing CS:S, i dont see an issue. This is why the gaming scene is so messed up, everyone shelters themselves from opening up to a new audience.

QFT

Getting MORE people into gaming isn't killing hardcore gaming, its creating more hardcore gamers. My wife would have never played TF2, or L4D... but because i got her addicted to Guitar Hero, she was willing to try it.

 

[Spitfire'd]

Yeah what's the problem here? The first goal of any business is to make a profit, let's be honest. This new revolutionary market of casual gaming is doing exactly that, of course companies are going to invest and go that route. Nothing wrong with that.

Hardcore gamers don't need new games released every month to stay happy. I mean lets be honest, our clan was founded on an updated version of a half-life mod (Day of Defeat: Source). We've added a few more and thankfully those mods have seen great improvements over the last 14-15 (has it really been that long?) years but we're still playing the same games...AND LOVING THEM!

I mean I got into Counterstrike back when it was 1.3 and I still hop into Source at least three times a week. I've been running around dust and that bloody office for years and I still get shot in the exact same spots as I did when I first started connecting to multi player servers.

Anyways I've ranted enough and it's starting to storm around my parts. In short the hardcore gamer is far from dead, he/she is just spending less money and playing the original games that made them hardcore in the first place.

 

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I will admit that im surprised that this topic has gotten so many responses, & I noticed that the responses go in so many different directions. So I decided to put down (according to some research I did) what exactly the definition of hardcore gaming is.

Hardcore gamer is a widely used term applied to describe a type of video game player. There is currently no unanimously agreed upon definition for the term (see Usage section). Some describe hardcore gamers as those whose leisure time is largely devoted to playing or reading about video games. This type of gamer prefers to take significant time and practice on games, in contrast to a casual gamer. Many hardcore gamers pride themselves on mastering the rules or use of a game, although this is not a strict requirement. Conflicting opinion argues that it is not so much the time spent on games however, as casual gamers can spend hundreds of hours on games without ever mastering them.

There is often confusion about what a hardcore gamer is. The term is often used to differentiate between types of hardcore gamers by such things as the amounts of time invested playing, how competitive the player is, preference for player versus player or player versus environment, game style or gameplay preference, or even the type of computer or console equipment used.

A definition by Raychul Moore on a Gametopius podcast is that hardcore gamers are emotionally invested in games ? Gaming isn't something that they can give up

 

[foxhound-KD-]

Then by definition being a part of ego should make us all hardcore gamers!

 

[+_Johnny_+]

lol wut? Staying up playing the original Zelda 'til 4AM IS hardcore gaming. CS:S? Pfft.

I love you.

Heh, then you haven't seen a real group of geeks hit Halo. My friends and I have pulled all night Halo (1, 2, &3) shindigs. I mean 14+ hours of straight Halo. It's not fair to say that Halo isn't a hardcore game. The XBox 360 has a ton of "hardcore" titles.

Amen.

I wouldn't call halo players ect hardcore, they are casual teengaers, who arn't hardcore gamers but do play games in their freetime. It's basicly the casual market of teenagers, the teenagers that wouldn't of played games 5-10 years ago.

Whoa. DUDE. You can't just generalize that it is only teenagers who play Halo and that they play Halo only in their free time. Because I have some friends in my school who are a year under me and all they do is play Halo when they get to their homes. By the way, I don't know how old you are, but like I said, you can't generalize. Your basically saying, that ANY teenager who has ever played Halo, wouldn't have played video games 10 years ago. I have played Halo. I have played Halo for over 4 hours. I HAVE BEEN GAMING SINCE 5 YEARS OLD. In other words, I would have gladly picked up a controller or smashed a few buttons in the arcade years ago just as any other gamer who has been playing as long as me. qft ;]

Yeah what's the problem here? The first goal of any business is to make a profit, let's be honest. This new revolutionary market of casual gaming is doing exactly that, of course companies are going to invest and go that route. Nothing wrong with that.

Hardcore gamers don't need new games released every month to stay happy. I mean lets be honest, our clan was founded on an updated version of a half-life mod (Day of Defeat: Source). We've added a few more and thankfully those mods have seen great improvements over the last 14-15 (has it really been that long?) years but we're still playing the same games...AND LOVING THEM!

I agree. A hardcore gamer in my eyes is someone who can't get enough of playing over and over again the same game and enjoys it. Yes, some hardcore gamers go over the top and dedicate themselves only to gaming, but in general a hardcore gamer is that person which enjoys gaming and plays more than other people.