Venerable Wisdom

[Quaffer]

An eGO of my long acquaintance put forth to me with resignation. "Sigh, perhaps I am just too old to admin on our servers anymore."

One of his warnings had been questioned because "Didn't he know that was from a popular commercial?" The phrase that was being warned against included a term that has been considered by my generation to be a euphemism for male genitalia. That is not the point of this thread. That has been discussed elsewhere.

My friends point was that he was told that he was out of touch with what is current and so should not pass judgement.

Balderdash! Yeah verily poppycock!

This is the point:

Part of my makeup, my values perhaps, comes from the fact that previous generations, parents, teachers, bosses, took the time to explain why being one way was better than being another. Some I accepted and some I rejected but they took the effort to present it to me. For that I laud them.

I think my opinions and values are worth passing on. Edge Gamers seems to agree, seeing as they have given me the responsibility of administering on our servers. I don't think it matters if I'm out of date. When I was as old as many of our players the US Government nearly sent me to Viet Nam. They ended the draft six months before I would have been called up. So yes my slang tends to contain phrases like "keen" and "totally tubular". So what. I still believe in respect. I believe that there are some things that should not be seen or heard by young people or inflicted upon the senses of we older people.

So for the "mature" types among us who wonder if they have anything of merit to offer the current generation I answer: Yes!

Let me put this out for you to ponder. If we don't make the effort to pass on our values to the generations that follow ours, who's values will they embrace?

P.S.
As there seems to be some confusion. This is not a letter of resignation. This is an admonishment to we of hoary countenance to stay and teach.​

 

[DragonD]

I'm from the "older Gen" as well (I'll be 41 NEXT week, ugh).

I'm a long time gamer, ran my own servers many times, had my own clan, etc.

I use to always tell my admins, "Our servers, our rules".

The point was, we paid for the servers/forums so WE could have a place to play the games WE wanted to play, with the environment WE wanted to have.

Same thing applies here, yes?

Nobody forces these guys to play in the eGo servers. If they don't like the rules, go play somewhere else.

 

[VizierKane]

you have a point, bit im 19 so i don't compare with you guy's wisdom!

 

[Quaffer]

you have a point, bit im 19 so i don't compare with you guy's wisdom!

We are the old guard. You are the new guard. It is to you that we pass the torch.

We ask four things of you:

1. Listen with an open mind.
2. Make your own decisions.
3. Accept responsibility for your actions.
4. When the time comes, pass on the torch.

"Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields."
John McCrae​

 

[Dweeb]

Im walking dust! NOW THATS OLD ! LOL ... Naa .... 43 years old and i love playing games.
For some reason i have alot of young people calling me a alsome friend. I'll never lead anyone wrong or lie. what more can any person want in a friend? I hope not only to help are young ones but maybe make a them think before they do. I lisen to everyone, because you can learn from anyone no matter what the age.

 

[Darth]

Im confused

 

[Stormrider^]

Im confused

Well said, that's pretty much all I have to say at this point being only 17 and very tired right now. I'll read that again for the 10th time in the morning and clarify my post.

 

[Boyle]

Nicely put Quaffer and I too respect the teachings of my elders. I also had a connection with your reference to the Vietnam draft. For those of you who do not know, there were 366 plastic capsules containing birth dates placed in a large glass jar. The were picked out by hand and assigned numbers from one to 366, with the lowest numbers being first call. The ages affected were from 18 to 26 and my number was in the low 30's that last draft, but as you stated Quaffer they closed it down in 1973, right after I turned 18. I grew up in a small town, in a middle class white family, and as history later documented the politicians were not too interested in really drafting my group as "potential solders", but racial and economic favoritism has long been one of this countries true problems. I learned from Vietnam that the man sometimes just protects his own. The point I am making is that we truly learn from our elders, right or wrong , how to make our own decisions to the best of our abilities based on experience, be it our own or from a more seasoned generation. eGO is our turf to protect and we do a great job of keeping it fun and safe for everyone.This is because of the age and experience of those who started our group and again as you stated Quaffer, those that take the baton and continue the race.

 

[Igoforunc09]

as me being 15 almost 16 i have no where close to wisdom as you do. all the people older than me i respect i usally respect because they have earned it, they have grown up and gone through everything i have just without the same technology. given there is some people i dont respect because of some of the crazy choices they decide to take but whatever. they only thing i can ask is for everybody to respect everyone else in the forums. if the are an council, advisor, division leader, eGO, eG, or an e. it doesnt matter everyone deserves respect. as for our servers if they dont like it they can leave people in this clan pay for the servers so we get to make the rules if they want to make there own rules they can make there own servers and forums or suck it up and deal with it

 

[imitation]

Why are you telling us to embrace your values, maybe you should embrace ours?

 

[Jake_25]

you all have so much wisdom me being 14 almost 15(may 18th) i have no good wisdom to share so ill take in as much as i can from all you my elders

 

[imitation]

Jake, wisdom doesn't come from age. It comes from experience.

 

[Quaffer]

jake, wisdom doesn't come from age. It comes from experience.

qft

 

[imitation]

qft

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[PoooPants]

With age comes experience, if the person has truly tried to live.

 

[Stormrider^]

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QFT = Quoted for truth.

 

[VizierKane]

We are the old guard. You are the new guard. It is to you that we pass the torch.

We ask four things of you:

1. Listen with an open mind.
2. Make your own decisions.
3. Accept responsibility for your actions.
4. When the time comes, pass on the torch.

"Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields."
John McCrae​

I am truly honered, will do Quaffer

 

[AngelCakes]

Yes DragonD is truly right as are you Quaffer...P.S. if any of you "older generation" need a little help getting updated on the terms just pm me xP im the epitome of the younger generation

 

[lumpy_d_great]

At 43 I am right there on the old guy front as far as age goes. But here I am a relative noob. One of the things that drew me here ( I was a clan leader in another clan, it ended badly for a lot of people there) was the support and continuing education that is available to all of us as we take on more responsibility. No one is left to flounder on their own.

One thing in particular that impresses me time and again is that we are told to use our best judgment in a given situation. If a mistake is made, and being humans, it does happen, we are corrected and given the chance to learn from our mistakes and grow. Wow, that sounds a lot like gaining experience and being mature to me. Age doesn't matter here as much as a willingness to learn. Good on all you who make us new old guys better.

I hope that I can continue to pay forward to newer ones and pass on what I am learning too.

 

[Akisohida]

The older generation does have a lot they can teach the younger one. I've noticed the work ethic of my generation is not all that great, when compared to my parents. You have more people on unemployment..not for lack of a job, but because it's easier than getting up and working. (I'm actually close to getting kicked out of my apartment because my job cut my hours to 0 but my pride prevents me from seeing unemployment pay while I wait to see if my job jerks me around or fires me. >.> )

I think part of it is dicipline. My mother, my 3 uncles, my 2 aunts, my step-father..If they stepped out of line, they got a smack. I see them as adults, working hard and doing the right thing.
..Now look at my generation. Even a spanking is 'traumatising' and teens are disrespecting their parents. It's because they, naturally, test the line to see what they can do and they never get told 'Enough.' because parents are afraid that any punishment will get them busted for abuse.


Back on track I guess it comes down to some basic wisdom that I hope I got right. Two words, really:
'Respect' and 'Tolerence'.
Respect people for who they are; Their views, their way of thinking, their way of being.
Tolerate those views different from yours. You may not understand it. You may not agree with it, but they have their right to it.

Even when I kick someone for being a complete griefing idiot, I understand they may be doing it simply because they think it is funny. Good for them. I thought it was funny when I kicked them, too. We all had fun!


I'll always keep an ear out when the older generation speaks, and I'll always shake a Vets hand. Because of them, risking life, limb, and mind, I have the freedom to live the life I want, including sitting here to play a game or two.