nintendos press conference thoughts

ragnorok87

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well what did you think? was it an improvement from last year? anything would be an improvement since nintendos e3 2008 showing was the worst of all time. nintendo showed some good games including golden sun for ds, smg 2 and metroid: other m. nintendo still made some mistakes and they were big ones. well the one that comes to my mind is nintendos vitiality meter comming to wii.

i thought wtf! "is nintendo trying to get into hospitals and retirement homes? i could see the commercial now "want to know that your senior is well cared for?" "get the nintendo vitiality heart meter and know when something is wrong right away" " the nintendo vitality heart meter, the choice for retirement homes and hospitals everywhere.

hell i wouldnt be surprised if my local hospital gets this because they are so cheap and are always looking to save a buck they will probably get a wii and this vitality meter just to cut costs on REAL medical equipment. if i was a senior in the audience i would have been deeply offended by this.

What is nintendo thinking? hardcore gamers, non gamers and even the casual gamers do not care for this porduct. nintendo will have an even harder sell then wii music on this one. not even yoga loving soccer moms will buy this. if you want a laugh go watch nintendos e3 2008 conference or for a funny short clip from it just type "ravi roll" into youtube.
 
Nintendo needs to take a lesson from Valve and actually listen to the people who made it great: the fans. Hence why I'm here and not on my Wii (although I do play Brawl, MP3 and TFU :P).
 
Ubisoft's this year made Nintendo 08 look great, and it did the same for Sony 06.
Nintendo's was OK, only excited for Metroid here.
 
Nintendo is doing what it did in the beginning. They take a good product and adding a crap load of peripherals that you really don't needed and then they expect to be praised for it.
 
Havn't watched it yet, got it downloaded though going to watch this weekend
 
I'm pretty excited about the new Metroid game. Metroid Prime 3 is currently my favorite on the system. Galaxy 2 and New Super Mario Bros. Wii look interesting too.
 
Add another Metroid fan here. Of all of the consoles, I am a Nintendo fanboy. Sure...they aren't the biggest or the best, but I have years of following under my belt. I still remember when I was 5 bringing the NES home and playing Super Mario for hours!
 
Only problem with Nintendo is they're audience grew up the games didn't. I'm gonna be 39 next month how bout some adult (and I don't mean x-rated) games for the wii.
 
Only problem with Nintendo is they're audience grew up the games didn't. I'm gonna be 39 next month how bout some adult (and I don't mean x-rated) games for the wii.

Nintendo just had an M rated game on the wii...and despite rave reviews. It sold horribly. Yep I'm referring to Madworld.
 
I was not too impressed with Nintendo's conference. Super Mario Galaxy 2 looks like a more of the same sequel.

New Super Mario Bros is really just an import, or a Wii-port rather.

The new Metroid sounds promising, but will it have multi-player? (Another sequel)

Golden Sun on the DS is expected, and not having played the first two I can only imagine the question will be can it live up to the first two? (another sequel, and I plan to play through the first two sometime by the way).

I mean ultimately they may have some good stuff and some bad stuff, but there's no "wow" factor and their "new stuff" feels recycled and uncreative.

Not that I think any of it will be bad, I just think it won't be great.

- my 2 cents.
 
i have been a nintendo fan since i was 3yrs old and i am sick of them.
showing 3 games of the same franchise(mario) in one conference is ridiculous. they're milking mario just because they know non gamers know who he is. the new super mario bros wii is a joke. the next metroid looks good and i like that golden sun is returning but other than that im angry with nintendo. all i've ever done is worship them and the past couple years i've been tossed aside along with millions of others.
i could go on but for now -rant over.
 
what nintendo needs to do is...

Nintendo just had an M rated game on the wii...and despite rave reviews. It sold horribly. Yep I'm referring to Madworld.

yes nintendo has had a few rated m games in the past. but most of those had been multiplatform and did not really count. for games like madworld i can say that it didnt sell well for a couple of reasons. the graphical art style turned a lot of people off and 2 most hardcore gamers have moved on from nintendo and get their fix elsewhere. thats not to say they dont own a wii but they wont buy any rated m games thats on the wii because its better elsewhere.

well what nintendo needs to do is actually develop their own rated m game. not do a partnership they need to fully 100% develop a few rated m games of their own. i think once people saw that nintendo was making their own m games it may cause some people to change their minds. but nintendo has lost many fans over the years because of their desperate attempt to hold on to soccer moms and grandparents and not true gamers. i truly believe nintendo has forgotten about the people who kept their company alive and the one group which truly matters.

what does nintendo expect? does nintendo honestly think that the soccer moms and grandparents will keep them alive? sure the wii is selling great and its made tons of money. look at the games that are being bought, they are all educational stuff like brain age and wii fit basically games that arnt really games at all. these people will not be pursuaded into buying a wii2 or a new console because they will say "I already have one" "why do i need a new one" Im happy with my wii and the original wii sports". these people are not hardcore gamers or indeed gamers at all. they are not the ones who will wait in line for more then 24 hours to wait for the next game or console release. soccer moms and grandparents do not eagerly look for the latest gaming news and chat about games in forums.

These new groups of people which nintendo is attempting to lump into one large group which they call "casual gamers" will not keep them afloat for long. this group rarely plays any of the games which nintendo wants them to play. they might get maybe 15 minutes in a day but thats it. ive never heard of a grandma or soccer mom spending hours playing a game. you see casual gamers or soccer moms and grandparents dont give a crap about videogames or the gaming industry. they dont care at all about videogames.they might say this is kind of fun and play for a few minutes and move onto something else. this isnot how you build a stable and reliable income. sure you might be able to trick this audience into your gimmicks for a little while but eventually even they will have enough and stop playing.

Nintendo has abandoned many of its core fanbase. while some are loyal to the dying end many have moved on. its dissappointing because i am a nintendo fan and they still make some good stuff. the reality is nintendo is giving the finger to the fanbase which built them an empire. its like gm or another auto company saying " thank you so much for your hard work, loyalty and dedicationtor us but now we no longer need you, have a nice day" nintendo seems to be placing all of its energy into grandparents, soccer moms and their now precious "casual" audience. they are the ones that matter now. the funny thing is that the "casual" care nothing for nintendo. nintendo could easily cater to BOTH sides and make plently of casual type games and still cater to their hardcore fans. if nintendo had done this instead they would have even more money and more sales and would ensure their dominance for years.

is nintendo beginning to crumble? is nintendo heading the way of sega? in a way you could say they are too big to fail but thats what the governments said about the banks and the auto compainies. also nintendo has lost much of their loyal fanbase and they may not return to their rescue. if nintendo continues down this route of more crappy perihperals and vitality meters they very well could lose their market dominance atleast and possibly fail. What will happen then if nintendo does begin to fail? will the grandparents and soccer moms rise up to defend them? NO it is the fans that nintendo should care about which are the only ones who can save them from bad times. It is us true gamers that are the only ones with the will and power to do so.

Also nintendo is facing a big threat in project natal. If this technology can do all that it promises then this is a true revolution in gaming and technology in general. it adds so much to the experience and it can add to just about any game you play. nintendo has to do something to counter this move and i think we can all agree the vitality meter isnt it. anyways my final question to you all is what should nintendo do now? which path should they take? what do you forsee happening in nintendos future? Do you agree with nintendo's philosphy? What would you like to see nintendo do? please discuss here with your thoughts
 
i have been a nintendo fan since i was 3yrs old and i am sick of them.
showing 3 games of the same franchise(mario) in one conference is ridiculous. they're milking mario just because they know non gamers know who he is. the new super mario bros wii is a joke. the next metroid looks good and i like that golden sun is returning but other than that im angry with nintendo. all i've ever done is worship them and the past couple years i've been tossed aside along with millions of others.
i could go on but for now -rant over.


that is totally true. nintendo spends far too much time milking their big franchises and not nearly enough creating new ip's and new characters. what is your opinion on zelda series? i think these games are still fresh and fun because we dont see them every year, as it usally takes 3-4 years before we see a true console version. i say this one hasnt been milked to death like mario has. nintendo should have shown their next wii zelda at e3. miamoto confirmed they could have shown it but decided to focus on development instead. honestly does nintendo liked to be boo'ed? does nintendo forget what happens when they finally give the fans what they want? i know zelda for wii ( not loztp) is the most anticpated especially because its not a gamecube port.

loztp was loved because many fans felt ww was too easy and they did not like the art style ( many were decieved into thinking it would be good graphics by a gamecube demo early in the gc launch) heres a link to my favourite nintendo moment and possibly the greatest e3 moment ever. this is what happened when nintendo finally gave in to the fans (millions of letters and e-mails later) and gave them what they wanted.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98VjTbC4gC4&feature=related[/ame]
 
Heh, madworld was a amazing game; I wonder how it would have sold on a different console.
 
that is totally true. nintendo spends far too much time milking their big franchises and not nearly enough creating new ip's and new characters. what is your opinion on zelda series? i think these games are still fresh and fun because we dont see them every year, as it usally takes 3-4 years before we see a true console version. i say this one hasnt been milked to death like mario has. nintendo should have shown their next wii zelda at e3. miamoto confirmed they could have shown it but decided to focus on development instead. honestly does nintendo liked to be boo'ed? does nintendo forget what happens when they finally give the fans what they want? i know zelda for wii ( not loztp) is the most anticpated especially because its not a gamecube port.

loztp was loved because many fans felt ww was too easy and they did not like the art style ( many were decieved into thinking it would be good graphics by a gamecube demo early in the gc launch) heres a link to my favourite nintendo moment and possibly the greatest e3 moment ever. this is what happened when nintendo finally gave in to the fans (millions of letters and e-mails later) and gave them what they wanted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98VjTbC4gC4&feature=related

i loved the ww art style after playing it for an hour or two and for some reason i thought it was really really hard. that may be because of the countless hours searching the ocean and rupee farming for triforce piece maps
i hated twilight princess, i thought the story was bad, all the characters looked like chipmunks(their faces, i dunno, just me), and it was far too easy. Also, trying to turn midna into navi failed miserably imo. i've loved every other zelda except for the ds versions because of the control scheme

i still get a chill up my spine watching that video. it fills me with happiness
 
It's never a good thing when all the new releases for the console are all just sequals.
I wholeheartedly agree with Ragnoroks 3-4 year release comment!
 
I'm just really looking forward to seeing how Golden Sun Ds turns out. Will it live up to its high expectations?
 

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