A bounty on Cl!ff

[Cl!FF]

hmm... everyone knows my opinion about spies, all they do is get a lucky stab and die right away and provides me a picture of his organs all splattered on the floor, there is no skill in that, not one little bit.... ofcourse there are good spies and I am not bashing them, I just give my opinion about the class)

You know how many engineers I dominate? how many sentryguns I can destroy, it is all about what class you are, if you are a demo, the sgs and engineers should not be a problem at all, soldiers, pyros and heavies can take out sgs as well, why do you need to be a spy?

Kunai and me understands eachother

 

[? Frisky Dingo ?]

Wow this is adding up to one hell of a bounty, and those rules...wow. I can see why spies make people mad...face stabs still havnt been fixed and all, but is that a legitimate reason to remove the spy class for those that dont rely on face stabs. While face stabs happen, they dont really happen 3 times in a row, to dominate someone takes skill not luck really. I think this bounty may be up for a long while and may never get paid. Cl!FF you are one heck of a player and with these rules, its not much of a challenge for you.

 

[Cl!FF]

Wow this is adding up to one hell of a bounty, and those rules...wow. I can see why spies make people mad...face stabs still havnt been fixed and all, but is that a legitimate reason to remove the spy class for those that dont rely on face stabs. While face stabs happen, they dont really happen 3 times in a row, to dominate someone takes skill not luck really. I think this bounty may be up for a long while and may never get paid. Cl!FF you are one heck of a player and with these rules, its not much of a challenge for you.

Spies are not left by facestabs, just the fact that people use spies to get revenge and such, why? it is the easiest way to kill a person, just 1 stab and he is done for, I already have enough committed spies hunting me down to be shot apart by sentryguns. I don't want even more spies coming after me with those cheap instant death stabs, I see tons of players who dominate so many players, they aren't a spy, I am not a spy, why should you then?

The spies and snipers are left out since they are just too cheap, 1 stands far away, and the other is just a instant stab to die 1 sec after, I want to see some good efforts, not if it is hard, lets go spy and hope to get a stab.

Use tactics, I don't dominate a lot of people without the medics helping me, giving kritskriegs or ubers, those things are your tools, just work together.

 

[Captain Calle]

Wow this is adding up to one hell of a bounty, and those rules...wow. I can see why spies make people mad...face stabs still havnt been fixed and all, but is that a legitimate reason to remove the spy class for those that dont rely on face stabs. While face stabs happen, they dont really happen 3 times in a row, to dominate someone takes skill not luck really. I think this bounty may be up for a long while and may never get paid. Cl!FF you are one heck of a player and with these rules, its not much of a challenge for you.

Cliff doesn't like Spies because there have been some that stabbed him just to die afterwards. It's not about facestabs. Personally, I think it's fine. If a Spy is so dedicated to kill you, he deserves the domination.

I also don't agree with the no-Sniper and no-assist rules. Sure, go ahead and take the Snipers' and Medics' advantages away, Range and the ability to heal team mates. Not every Sniper is a top tier Sniper that headshots Scouts in close quarter combat and not many Medics rush their enemies with their weapons.


-Calle

 

[Cl!FF]

Cliff doesn't like Spies because there have been some that stabbed him just to die afterwards. It's not about facestabs. Personally, I think it's fine. If a Spy is so dedicated to kill you, he deserves the domination.

I also don't agree with the no-Sniper and no-assist rules. Sure, go ahead and take the Snipers' and Medics' advantages away, Range and the ability to heal team mates. Not every Sniper is a top tier Sniper that headshots Scouts in close quarter combat and not many Medics rush their enemies with their weapons.


-Calle

It is a bounty based on skill, dedication has nothing to do with it.... spies are not skilled, it does not take skill to stab a person and die afterwards.....

The sniper and medic rule might be adjusted in case the domination takes too long.

But you can't please everyone.... some want to take the easy way

 

[Vandall]

If the spy knows that it's a smart play to kill you with a "cheap facestab" and die afterwards, which may result in helping his team immensely, I think he deserves it. Besides, that's what spies do, stab people in the back. It's not their fault you and your team aren't spy-checking well enough.

 

[Captain Kraken]

It is a bounty based on skill, dedication has nothing to do with it.... spies are not skilled, it does not take skill to stab a person and die afterwards.....

The sniper and medic rule might be adjusted in case the domination takes too long.

But you can't please everyone.... some want to take the easy way

You have not considered the skill it takes to get behind you in the first place. Or for really good snipers to line up that shot.

The way I see it, if you let an individual hurt you that many times through stabs/sniping etc., then he is doing just skilled enough and it's you that needs to adapt. You can't say it is skill-less, it's just a completely different breed of horse. Yes, there are facestabs. But there are also stray rockets not even meant for you, crit stickies that happened to roll by, W+M1 pyros, and all manner of other things every kind of TF2 player in the world on any sort of medium could call "skill-less killing". These rules are just screaming " I get dominated by those a lot and I can't change my playstyle to fight it."

 

[Krezman93]

Good luck with this.... Cl!ff is number 1 on HLx stats in case anyone didnt know.... hes amazing.... Props to whoever completes this task.

Also, people need to realisze that this was made for fun... not to start arguements. Everyone is arguin over the rules and conditions and quoting what everyone says to argue against it. I think if you want to do the bounty then do it, if not, I don't see a reason to complain or argue.

 

[tiddy]

These rules are ridiculous.

250,000 to anyone who dominates Cliff by any means. Period.

 

[PeZku]

This thread became a Spy argument thread.

Awesomesauce.

Also, good luck on the dominations people.

 

[? Frisky Dingo ?]

Spies are not left by facestabs, just the fact that people use spies to get revenge and such, why? it is the easiest way to kill a person, just 1 stab and he is done for, I already have enough committed spies hunting me down to be shot apart by sentryguns. I don't want even more spies coming after me with those cheap instant death stabs, I see tons of players who dominate so many players, they aren't a spy, I am not a spy, why should you then?

The spies and snipers are left out since they are just too cheap, 1 stands far away, and the other is just a instant stab to die 1 sec after, I want to see some good efforts, not if it is hard, lets go spy and hope to get a stab.

Use tactics, I don't dominate a lot of people without the medics helping me, giving kritskriegs or ubers, those things are your tools, just work together.

Although I wont get the bounty, because of this statement I will be hunting you to prove spies are not a 1 kill and die class. Just promise me that once I get 2 kills on you that you wont leave the game ruining it for others to get the domination they want. As for why play spy, its my best class thats why. I actually think its not the easiest class to play as well as not being the hardest...soldier being one of the easiest class to play imo...point and shoot, rinse and repeat. It takes skill to get 8 kills and over as spy, my personal best being 18 kills in 1 life as spy...you have to position yourself and chose your target correct and 1 fail stab and your done for.

If the spy knows that it's a smart play to kill you with a "cheap facestab" and die afterwards, which may result in helping his team immensely, I think he deserves it. Besides, that's what spies do, stab people in the back. It's not their fault you and your team aren't spy-checking well enough.

+1

 

[Noobkiller]

wait by assists do you mean the person dominating you or completely.
like lets say I kill you with the help of a medic does that count ?

 

[GingaNinja]

although i wont get the bounty, because of this statement i will be hunting you to prove spies are not a 1 kill and die class. Just promise me that once i get 2 kills on you that you wont leave the game ruining it for others to get the domination they want. As for why play spy, its my best class thats why. I actually think its not the easiest class to play as well as not being the hardest...soldier being one of the easiest class to play imo...point and shoot, rinse and repeat. It takes skill to get 8 kills and over as spy, my personal best being 18 kills in 1 life as spy...you have to position yourself and chose your target correct and 1 fail stab and your done for.

thank you frisky for standing up for the spy! +1

 

[Ritsu]

Heh maybe if I had more casino money I'd throw some in. When I earn some more I'll throw in a few; sounds like a safe bet

 

[Cl!FF]

Wow, bounty is getting pretty big

Although I wont get the bounty, because of this statement I will be hunting you to prove spies are not a 1 kill and die class. Just promise me that once I get 2 kills on you that you wont leave the game ruining it for others to get the domination they want. As for why play spy, its my best class thats why. I actually think its not the easiest class to play as well as not being the hardest...soldier being one of the easiest class to play imo...point and shoot, rinse and repeat. It takes skill to get 8 kills and over as spy, my personal best being 18 kills in 1 life as spy...you have to position yourself and chose your target correct and 1 fail stab and your done for.

I know you are a good spy Frisky, I said it a lot of times. And I am not saying spies are easy to play, I am saying it is easy to kill, 1 hit and you are a goner, it is just way too fast, draining the life away with 1 shot is just too powerful in my eyes.

But I played with you today Frisky, I don't leave the server, no worries you can still stab me lol

 

[Vandall]

You can say the same about crit stickies, pipes, rockets, headshots, etc.
Just because something is "1 shot and boom" doesn't mean it's "cheap".

 

[midget31394]

WAIT!!! Tiddy! 250,000k?

250,000k = 250,000,000


Two hundred and fifty MILLION casino for this? Wow...

 

[Extremely_Average]

These rules are ridiculous.

250,000 to anyone who dominates Cliff by any means. Period.

I love you. And I really mean it.

 

[Cl!FF]

Alright to give you guys an update on what happened today,

I played for about 12 hours today on dustbowl and a lot of blood and guts were spilled
Only one person dominated me today and that was JohnPreston, he is a good player so I am pretty ok with it. However 3 of the 4 kills were after the round ended so I pretty much could do nothing about it but stare at the criticals coming at me. But it is tiddy's cash so it is up to him to decide what he wants to do if he wants to drop it or give it to the next player.

Just a bit of fun ^^

whoops tiddy dominated *runs*

 

[Sabion]

Oh wow Cliff, how dare you leave after I get three legit kills on you =( Shower and breakfast could have waited =(