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Official Unofficial Firearms thread!
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You said "9mms dont have enough stopping power". To me, and most other people, your saying that if I shot you, you wouldn't be "phased" or "stopped". I don't put words in people mouths. I take what you say, and put it into a more literal term. I reiterate, if I shot you with a 9mm you would (and to "not put words in your mouth", but instead take them out of your mouth) "stop".
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Before I go on I would like to mention my #1 pet peeve is the misuse of the term "clip." Below is an informative video detailing the difference between magazines and clips. In essence, clips go in magazines and magazines go in guns.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzmVJ1rXD9U[/ame]
Already do, but Glocks are good guns it?s all personal preference.
You?re going to catch a lot of flak for opening the "stopping power" can.
Weapons and their respective calibers rely on one's needs and personal preference. The 9x19mm Parabellum cartridges have been used by law enforcement and the military for years (its track record speaks volumes). Their light recoil, low cost, combined with high-capacity magazines make it a great all around cartridge. If you get a decent home defense round like Federal Hydrashock or Hornady TAP 9mm rounds can perform extremely well against soft targets. 45ACP is a large round but considerably slower. When a bullet impacts and travels through soft targets there are three principles you should be aware of:
1. Fragmentation- the characteristics of the bullet that either promote or dissuade a round breaking into smaller pieces it contacts the target.
2. Permanent cavitation- The actual hole the round leaves in the target.
3. Temporary cavitation- The temporary cavity formed by the force of the bullet as opposed to the permanent cavity made by the actual bullet. Temporary cavitation causes damage to soft tissue, nerves, and blood vessels.
Another major point to consider is a weapon's accuracy. This is in tandem with the weapon's caliber. 9mm has very little recoil allowing for great accuracy and quicker follow up shots. 45ACP has considerably more recoil especially in lighter synthetic firearms. Oh, and if you live with other people in the house or in an apartment you should always consider a round?s penetration. What I?m trying to say is that ?stopping power? isn?t everything and the ability to hit the target (and avoiding accidental casualties) is the most important goal.
In short-- personal preference.
Oh and if you need to get schooled in anything gun related find me, DigitalDJ, or KillerxDebo when we are in the same room.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzmVJ1rXD9U[/ame]
Already do, but Glocks are good guns it?s all personal preference.
You?re going to catch a lot of flak for opening the "stopping power" can.
Weapons and their respective calibers rely on one's needs and personal preference. The 9x19mm Parabellum cartridges have been used by law enforcement and the military for years (its track record speaks volumes). Their light recoil, low cost, combined with high-capacity magazines make it a great all around cartridge. If you get a decent home defense round like Federal Hydrashock or Hornady TAP 9mm rounds can perform extremely well against soft targets. 45ACP is a large round but considerably slower. When a bullet impacts and travels through soft targets there are three principles you should be aware of:
1. Fragmentation- the characteristics of the bullet that either promote or dissuade a round breaking into smaller pieces it contacts the target.
2. Permanent cavitation- The actual hole the round leaves in the target.
3. Temporary cavitation- The temporary cavity formed by the force of the bullet as opposed to the permanent cavity made by the actual bullet. Temporary cavitation causes damage to soft tissue, nerves, and blood vessels.
Another major point to consider is a weapon's accuracy. This is in tandem with the weapon's caliber. 9mm has very little recoil allowing for great accuracy and quicker follow up shots. 45ACP has considerably more recoil especially in lighter synthetic firearms. Oh, and if you live with other people in the house or in an apartment you should always consider a round?s penetration. What I?m trying to say is that ?stopping power? isn?t everything and the ability to hit the target (and avoiding accidental casualties) is the most important goal.
In short-- personal preference.
Oh and if you need to get schooled in anything gun related find me, DigitalDJ, or KillerxDebo when we are in the same room.
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My pea-shooter
Davis Industries .380
One of those little $100 pawn shop jobs!
Even ignoring the "stopping power" can of worms, I'd have to second the .45 suggestion for this reason - I'm no ballistics expert, but I'm pretty sure they have more oomph but less penetration, which is great for home defense.
That said, I can see the point of smaller-caliber, lighter-weight weapons for guns that are actually gonna be carried a lot, although with a good shoulder holster and long sleeves a 1911 shouldn't be that hard to conceal & carry for most people. Honestly, it seems to me the whole carrying discussion is usually taken too far - in an emergency situation which requires drawing a gun, you're not gonna be going shot-for-shot with a criminal to see who can stay up the longest ("Your turn, Al! Aw, my Glock isn't a 1-hit headshot!"), so pretty much anything easy to access is quite capable of keeping you alive.
Smaller Caliper = Less recoil = More shots fired.
Higher Caliper = More recoil = Less shots fired.
When you can get off 4 shots compared to the other guys 2 it makes a huge difference.
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50 cent was shot nine times by a 9mm and we still have to listen to him whine about it everytime his feet come anywhere near a stage
just sayin
just sayin
I'm pretty sure this a thread to post PICTURES OF YOUR GUNS! With the exception of Digital and Stormy, I haven't seen gun pics from the people talking about "stopping power." Pics or GTHO!
Oh. And here's stopping power:
I guarantee a hollow-point or hydrashock 9mm bullet would put down an attacker in the hands of almost any CAPABLE and COMPETENT shooter. For that matter, a .22 bullet to the chest could and has killed many people throughout history. Just ask Archduke Ferdinand how that .22 bullet treated him. Hmm?
Oh. And here's stopping power:
I guarantee a hollow-point or hydrashock 9mm bullet would put down an attacker in the hands of almost any CAPABLE and COMPETENT shooter. For that matter, a .22 bullet to the chest could and has killed many people throughout history. Just ask Archduke Ferdinand how that .22 bullet treated him. Hmm?
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heres me and a .22
and heres me ready to hunt the worlds deadliest game, ninjas...
and heres me ready to hunt the worlds deadliest game, ninjas...
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You mean a Smith & Wesson Model 29 to be exact. I had the same dream, so I bought one.
I added some new grips, took some new pics, deleted the old ones from my Photobucket, and forgot they were linked here. So scroll down to my next post for newer pics of my S&W 29.
And since we're posting USP's (compact version in .45ACP)
And Glocks (Model 20 - full frame 10mm). I have no doubt about it's "stopping power"
And here's my total pimp gun, a Colt Python.
And, for those who didn't know already, check out this eGO Social Group.
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I would post pictures of a gun, except for the fact that I am 17, and my dad was never big on guns, so I don't have any yet. However, I am planning to build myself an AR15 once I am 18 and it is legal, also when I get the money for it.
And no I don't live in California, so yes, assault weapons are legal here in Virginia.
And no I don't live in California, so yes, assault weapons are legal here in Virginia.
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