Save Mesa!!!

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Maybe 3 minutes? I'm a fast typer. lol. And, no, they dont, gucci. When people start to leave the server, the population tends to die off. I see it happen all the time when people migrate from ValveMaps to Mesa for instance. Imjustsayin.

And all I am saying is that we need to focus on all the servers as a whole, not that we need to ignore any of them. I am saying that in a push to help one, we can't let any of them fall by the way side, or we risk losing another server. That is all I am saying. So please, don't misunderstand what I am trying to say.

Then why are you here typing? Go fill the servers!
 
And all I am saying is that we need to focus on all the servers as a whole, not that we need to ignore any of them. I am saying that in a push to help one, we can't let any of them fall by the way side, or we risk losing another server. That is all I am saying. So please, don't misunderstand what I am trying to say.

"There have been multiple threads about focusing on valve maps, turbine, egypt, and other failing servers, and i've never seen leadership tell them to focus on filling the other servers. I've said many times on those threads that we needed to focus on mesa, but I was just ignored. Its not that we don't care about the other servers, We aren't saying that we are going to never go on the other servers ever again, and i know John isnt making threats, but he's saying that Mesa isn't doing good, and unless something changes, then it will be removed. I don't see valve maps, foundry, or the other servers at risk for failing, which is why we need mesa to be our #1 priority.

Basically I don't want to throw the other servers under the bus, But I'd rather have any other server be on the chopping block than Mesa. I was about to quit eGO when I first played on blackmesa, and I fell in love with it. Its the reason why many Admins and members continue to stay in eGO actually, and we have a very dedicated player base filled with many pubs and many members, and all of them are great. I don't want to see all of them not play tf2 anymore because of mesa being removed. I would rarely play tf2 except when I have events then too probably, So this is why I made this thread. Its about Mesa, not every other server.

That being said, We can focus on the other servers once Mesa is back on its feet."

thats my reply to that still :P
 
Personally, I do not love Black Mesa. I like it, but the rounds get too long and tedious sometimes. (It's like a never ending tug-o-war!) Plus, 24/7 maps bore me after an hour or so.

Still, I'll help with idling and occasional playing. I haven't had my computer idling all night like before, but I can start that again.
 

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What we need to do is realize that valve maps still needs help. Since quickplay is enabled its not hard to fill valve maps and keep it full. But quickplay only starts to work once the server gets 8 people. If nobody jump starts valve maps then it wont fill and we will lose it. We need some people to fill up valve maps early, then slowly prgress to mesa. Thats what needs to be done. If we neglect valve maps completely then it will get chopped. I will keep idling mesa but if Valve maps needs help, I will leave mesa to make sure it gets filled.
 
What we need to do is realize that valve maps still needs help. Since quickplay is enabled its not hard to fill valve maps and keep it full. But quickplay only starts to work once the server gets 8 people. If nobody jump starts valve maps then it wont fill and we will lose it. We need some people to fill up valve maps early, then slowly prgress to mesa. Thats what needs to be done. If we neglect valve maps completely then it will get chopped. I will keep idling mesa but if Valve maps needs help, I will leave mesa to make sure it gets filled.

We DON'T need to realize that valve maps needs help guys. blackmesa is in trouble, not valve maps. Focus on mesa for now and Focus on valve maps later.
 
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2fort = (almost) always full. i don't even bother with it. i don't even like the map. i sometimes play in it though...just to troll around with sticky jumper.

i barely see people on my friend list playing in 2fort...so i'm guessing 90% of those who play there are pubs.

foundry = usually full but often needs to be kicked off. once the server is started, it's full of pubs. this is easily one of the best map made by valve. you can play almost any class and do equally good. quick spawn is good.

usually, when Foundry is full, it's 20-30% eGO players and 70-80% pubs.


mesa = the best tf2 map ever made, period. you don't agree? stop reading. pretty much the reason i joined eGO and i'll be around as long as this map plays. alike foundary, you can play any class in this map and do equally good. this isn't one of those linear valve maps...you can take alternative routes and flank. also quick spawn.

usually, when Mesa is full, it's 40-50 % eGO players and 50-60% pubs. Perfect balance for an excellent gameplay.

valve maps:
(flame shield ON!)

full of bloody linear maps. in most of the map, there is literally no place to move or flank. gawd awful 20 second respawn time which makes me go afk every so often. sometimes the maps people "vote" for literally makes me facepalm with my keyboard.

literally, the only time pubs join is when one of those decent map (yes there are some decent maps in there) gets played.

usually, when valve map server is full, it's 80 - 90% eGO players and 10- 20% pubs. DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM HERE? YOU are killing other servers by hand picking valve maps!


delete valve maps and it'll be back to normal
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By the time we focus on valve maps "later" it will be getting cut off. We have to focus both.. if we do not focus both we will have two servers getting dropped on our hands. we cannot choose and single out one or the other. John T Said BOTH Black mesa and Valve maps are in trouble.
 
mesa = the best tf2 map ever made, period. you don't agree? stop reading. pretty much the reason i joined eGO and i'll be around as long as this map plays. alike foundary, you can play any class in this map and do equally good. this isn't one of those linear valve maps...you can take alternative routes and flank. also quick spawn.

usually, when Mesa is full, it's 40-50 % eGO players and 50-60% pubs. Perfect balance for an excellent gameplay.

valve maps:
(flame shield ON!)

full of bloody linear maps. in most of the map, there is literally no place to move or flank. gawd awful 20 second respawn time which makes me go afk every so often. the maps people "vote" for makes me facepalm every so often.
(note: there are some decent maps in there)

usually, when valve map server is full, it's 80 - 90% eGO players and 10- 20% pubs. DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM HERE? YOU are killing other servers by hand picking valve maps!


delete valve maps and it'll be back to normal
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You got your numbers wrong there. Maybe those were true before or at certain times of the day/week, but not always.

Whenever I check to see who is on Black Mesa, it's practically 75% eGOs and 25% pubs, maybe less. I don't see that many pubs on there, period. There are times where it's pretty much all eGOs. Of course, this is to help it fill up, but the lack of pubs is definitely there.

Valve Maps on the other hand, is doing better. Ever since we got Quick Play, there are certain times of the day where it's 10% eGOs and 90% pubs! There are even times where I check the server and it's almost full and there are no eGOs on! Of course, these numbers aren't always true. There are times where it's 50/50, or there are 80% eGOs and 20% pubs. But that's cause we love to play on Valve Maps.

I don't care if you dislike or hate Valve Maps. But don't joke about getting rid of it. Too many of us worked hard on getting the server back.
 
Hey guys, calm down now. We're doing our best to fill all the servers we don't want to lose any servers, and trust me when I say that Leadership is fighting for this. We don't want to get rid of either mesa or Valvemaps, they are both equally important in our eyes. Valvemaps has a slightly higher priority to fill though because it is easier to fill, once quickplay kicks in it fills up and stays full then we move to mesa after that.

Everyone calm down, we're all TF2 Division and we want to keep all of the servers.
 
The TF2 leadership has been dealing with this issue, and its not an easy one. Blackmesa is a staple in TF2 wheel house we do not want to loss this server or any servers that we support.

Please lets be civil in the way we present our dislikes or like towards one server.

I will be closing this thread so we can move on as a division. If anyone would like to come talk to me or one of the TF2 leadership members, please do so, but lets move on.
 
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