de_dust server gone - why & opinions...?

[de_dust :(]

I've played on eGO servers for over a year and a half. I've always respected eGO for the professional and level-headed monitoring of servers.

I mostly played de_dust. Then one day, without warning, and after getting to know like 20-30 daily regulars, and probably 100s of people that play weekly or monthly or periodically - now that's gone. eGO, you don't understand my frustration?

Now that I have an issue and am trying to do something I signed up on the forum and started to share my views. As soon as I do that, there's no longer any discussion allowed. What is the purpose of having a forum if the people who play here cannot express views that differ with yours [THREAD CLOSED]?

Since Dust was replaced I was kind of mad that people did not come to its defense on this forum. There's so many players I played with almost daily that haven't said a thing - but now I understand - it has something to do with the harsh responses from some eGO members to criticism or just disagreement. I'm not a member of the club.



1. Primary reason Dust player count dropped - DDoS attacks by kid for WEEKS. And the eGO response was: the kid is right, let's get rid of Dust. Tho I understood the slow response to fix the server, it wasn't affecting the most popular maps where most of the eG and eGO members play, I don't understand caving into the whims of a child hacker. You finished for him what he set out to do.

2. As for low player count being the only reason to replace Dust - I disagree. I think that Highschool compared with Dust has had fewer players for fewer hours for longer stretches of time, even well before any DDoS.

3. Also, some eGO members said in the Aztec post, well if you loved Dust so much you should have done more to save it. NO WARNING WAS GIVEN FROM EGO THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM?!? Do you understand why that logic is flawed? I can't try to fix a problem I don't know exists.

Hope someone agrees with me.

 

[Archer]

The first post in the aztec thread was that they are trying it out for a month. This thread is located here.
http://www.edge-gamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207770
Please wait a few more weeks to see if your Dust map comes back.
Im not leadership but im pretty sure they didnt get rid of dust because of DDos as de dust wasnt the issue with the attacker it was dust 2 being so high in rankings.
For future complaints and/or suggestions about our servers please use the drop box located at the bottom of our forums, or HERE.

 

[duck commander]

I've played on eGO servers for over a year and a half. I've always respected eGO for the professional and level-headed monitoring of servers.

I mostly played de_dust. Then one day, without warning, and after getting to know like 20-30 daily regulars, and probably 100s of people that play weekly or monthly or periodically - now that's gone. eGO, you don't understand my frustration?

Now that I have an issue and am trying to do something I signed up on the forum and started to share my views. As soon as I do that, there's no longer any discussion allowed. What is the purpose of having a forum if the people who play here cannot express views that differ with yours [THREAD CLOSED]?

Since Dust was replaced I was kind of mad that people did not come to its defense on this forum. There's so many players I played with almost daily that haven't said a thing - but now I understand - it has something to do with the harsh responses from some eGO members to criticism or just disagreement. I'm not a member of the club.



1. Primary reason Dust player count dropped - DDoS attacks by kid for WEEKS. And the eGO response was: the kid is right, let's get rid of Dust. Tho I understood the slow response to fix the server, it wasn't affecting the most popular maps where most of the eG and eGO members play, I don't understand caving into the whims of a child hacker. You finished for him what he set out to do.

2. As for low player count being the only reason to replace Dust - I disagree. I think that Highschool compared with Dust has had fewer players for fewer hours for longer stretches of time, even well before any DDoS.

3. Also, some eGO members said in the Aztec post, well if you loved Dust so much you should have done more to save it. NO WARNING WAS GIVEN FROM EGO THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM?!? Do you understand why that logic is flawed? I can't try to fix a problem I don't know exists.

Hope someone agrees with me.

Nigerian, how many ego members do you see on a regular basis that play Dust? Maybe 3 members. Look at Jail or highschool servers and it is littered with them. That's why dust is gone. Its not because dust was "rotten." As penguin said, dust would be empty also which is ignorance. Aztec is empty ALL day long. You cant hear a thing on that map except for rain and thunder.

7pm and aztec is EMPTY on a Saturday. Really?

Another reason why a lot of regulars to the dust server do not post on this forum is because if you are not an ego member or leadership, they dont care about your opinion. Like Nigerian said, you cant fix a problem you dont know exists

 

[Swayne]

I was in Aztec all day, from about 8am central until now. But I'm sure leadership does take note of everyone's opinion. Just because you do not see a direct result of something you state, does not mean that it goes unnoticed.

Please direct any comments or suggestions to the dropbox.

 

[duck commander]

I was in Aztec all day, from about 8am central until now. But I'm sure leadership does take note of everyone's opinion. Just because you do not see a direct result of something you state, does not mean that it goes unnoticed.

Please direct any comments or suggestions to the dropbox.

Playing all day and being in spec is different. unless you didnt kill anybody

I do understand your point about not seeing a direct result though, good point.

 

[Legend]

Nigerian, how many ego members do you see on a regular basis that play Dust? Maybe 3 members. Look at Jail or highschool servers and it is littered with them. That's why dust is gone. Its not because dust was "rotten." As penguin said, dust would be empty also which is ignorance. Aztec is empty ALL day long. You cant hear a thing on that map except for rain and thunder.

An empty server is an empty server, no matter who the people in it are. They wouldn't just get rid of a server because there isn't a very eGO presence all day every day. If that was the case, then we wouldn't have a Dust2 server.

DE_DUST was falling in popularity, and instead of watching that server IP fall completely flat on its face, they decided to change it up to try and save the server. We have been doing this since the community was created, its not something that we just decided to do one day. If a server is starting to fail, change it up in hopes that it will rebound.

 

[Oberst]

I'm open to Aztec, I figure if the server isn't maintaining popularity then a change shouldn't be out of the question, i'm curious to see how we do with Aztec now.

 

[penguin]

We do care about the pubs. If you have a complaint use the dropbox. Ill Legend said it best, dust was failing. If Aztec doesn't work out then it will be back, this isn't place to complain

 

[Raul Tha Monk]

I'm sorry you lost your favorite sever but it should be back later I guess for now try To enjoy are other great severs

 

[eve goes (-.-)b]

my $0.02

when people say that "dust was failing" do they mean before or after it was crashing like once an hour?

i'm one of those dust regulars, and i cant speak for everyone, but when the server was frequently crashing, i thought it would just be fixed, so i was content with dust2 for a while. now people are making it sound like dust was already going downhill, and that just isn't true. i love dust its the only map i play, but i won't play there if its going to kick me off that frequently, who would? now, i'm not on my computer all day, but whenever i wanted to play, there were always at least 10-14 people on when it was slow, and thats not counting the early hours. i'm basing this purely off of my own experience, if the people that claim "dust was failing" are forming their opinion from some type of report or statistic, then i can't really say anything since i don't know the numbers. but comming from someone who played there all the time (like nigerian, duck, and a lot of others), i never felt that the dust server had population issues. sure, it wasn't as successful as our dust2 room, but thats not a fair comparison. bottom line is the ONLY time that i thought there was a problem with the server was when it was being "attacked". to say that the room was declining before the attacks is false, and to say that the server had to be changed because it was declining during the attacks is even more absurd.

if i didn't have a life, a job, and school, then i could spend all day everyday trying to help out, but sadly that is not the case, and for the record, i did afk a lot there when i could. that server was basically my reason for staying with ego, so it makes me sad to see it go.

please please please bring it back!

on a side note...
with all the crying that went on about how dust is basically an automatic win for CTs, its interesting to see that its the T regulars here on the boards fighting for the server. and fyi, it is not easy being a CT on dust, thats right i went there

 

[duck commander]

on a side note...
with all the crying that went on about how dust is basically an automatic win for CTs, its interesting to see that its the T regulars here on the boards fighting for the server. and fyi, it is not easy being a CT on dust, thats right i went there

What can I say eve, I like the challenge of being on the t side 99% of the time and the other regulars that consistantly join T work well together.

 

[Muffs]

I like aztec over dust but I guess you guys feel the same way about dust... dust was always around 30 and up in a good time and aztec is well new so it's hard to tell

just my .02

 

[Zimmy]

For the record, I did not close that thread to be rude or shut out your opinion, nor was it due to the fact that you disagreed with us. I closed it because it was a server announcement, not an open forum to bicker and fight back and forth with each other.

We understand your frustration as regulars in de_dust, but unfortunately, we felt that we needed to change things up. As was stated previously, we are trying out an Aztec server in place of dust this month. It wasn't very appreciated to see you give us an hourly update of how many players are on the server.

To address your main points:

1. The DDoS attacks targeted us because of the high ranking of our Dust2 server, but unfortunately our box containing office, dust, jail, and highschool was the one effected. Don't blame our replacement of dust solely on DDoS.
   
   
2. We have highschool regulars as well and they would feel the same way you did if we changed that up. We made a choice on which server to change and it just so happens to be the server that you regulated. I'm sorry, but we can't please everyone.
   
   
3. You're right, there wasn't necessarily a warning given, but neither are we required to give everyone that plays in the server a heads up. We needed to act and make a change, and thus a change was made.

I also asked that you take this concern to the Dropbox so that you could express your concerns with leadership directly instead of bickering back and forth with other members in the announcement thread.

Zimmy

 

[iGixxer]

Just bring DUST back,

eve: I play for both side T or Ct , autojoin thats for me.



bring DUST back.

 

[iamevilbear]

We aren't going to have these protest threads. Dust was empty. We are trying something new this month. I'm sorry but the server did not have the support you all are describing lately.

We received dozens of complaints that the map featured little to no balance and thus we made the decision to change the map.

bear