Counter-Strike Global Offensive Jail Server Jailbreak Rule Fixes

[Ultraboy]

There's a lot of rules that make the game a lot harder than necessary for newer players, which results in them leaving or going elsewhere.

Somethings that cause this include:

*Cancerous CTs
*Terrible CTs
*Non Stop Rebelling
*Waiting for a new round
*Cancerous Wardens
*Opinionated Games
*Last Man Standing
*Last CT

Personally, the hardest thing for me about being a new player was Cancerous CTs. This is something that can be fought but not fixed. Being cancerous should NOT EVER be admin discretion. It would lead to favoritism and targetting. However, I believe that a few rules could be added / changed to fix all of these.

New Rules:

// Counter Terrorist:

If a terrorist is not an active threat to the round, such as being red, chasing a CT, two knifing distance steps out of a marker, holding a gun out for more than 3 seconds or actively running / moving during AFK Freeze, they should not be killed.

// Simply knifing or accidentally crouching can be a true mistake and having to wait 8 minutes because an 8 year old likes high numbers is a good reason to leave and never return.

During Last CT the last guard should be swapped for 25 damage every 10 seconds to help move onwards to the next round. This would reduce wait times considerably without having a large gameplay effect.

CTs who shoot into stacks such as miguel and shethicc should be swapped immediately. I believe that freedamage should be freedamage and the 50 damage rule removed. Being damaged for 42 health for no reason after being offered health and forced to play jumprope afterwords is completely unfair and unecessary.

Careless CT should be a more common swap.

 

[teimyw8]

I like this guy

 

[Ayto]

These are pretty cool. I only slightly agree with the new CT rule. Reds did something wrong that has damaged a CT, throwing nades, shooting CT’s, etc. They should be killed; BUT warden shouldn’t make all of them unstack just to kill someone who threw a decoy grenade. Literally chasing a CT is an active threat so they should be killed too. But like being a little outside of the market, knifing by accident, being tanned out, etc. are all things that guards take for granted.

Shooting into stack is the second rule as a guard and is so simple and easy to understand but it’s one of the most commonly broken rules. And nobody is ever swapped for breaking it.

Last CT is fine imo...

But what we really truly need, what every jailbreak server needs is !redie. Because god bless those people who get killed for the most ludicrous things and have to wait until the round is over. Like can I get a [Super Duper High Priority] here because !redie would make our Jail #1

 

[sopheyy]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Shooting into stack is the second rule as a guard and is so simple and easy to understand but it?s one of the most commonly broken rules. And nobody is ever swapped for breaking it.

I often shoot into a stack (not when it's fully packed) to kill a red, because they usually take a small step out of the stack to be able to kill CTs with their gun, or they're crouching in the stack, after throwing that useless nade that did literally nothing, except get them killed.
I agree that if you don't know how to, then you shouldn't - but I don't think that people should get punished for doing it when they know what they're doing.

 

[Corrupted]

Tbh for me what ruins this server is cancerous ct's , nonstop camping secrets/vents , the one thing i hate is whenever u do that ump jump from cell u die instantly because a ct has to watch it and gives no chance to rebel . Why do t's always win the round atleast most of the time is because a gun gets into stack , warden dies othet t's get guns and kill other ct's . Also there should be a rule that if there is less than 10 t's alive and like 3+ ct's you are not allowed to be cancer , and if there is less than 15-20 t's the ct's and warden are not allowed to be cancer.

These are the rules i think that should be added are as follows :

-Ct's are not allowed to focus a t just because they rebel allot .
-You are not allowed to be cancer with 3-10 t's and 3+ Cts Alive , or if there is 0-20 Terrorists .
-You shouldn't do games that take over 2 min , if they do you should cancel the game and take all exept the last .
-1 out of 3 round could be super cancer, crouch walk afk everything , but the other 2 round shouldnt be as cancer.

 

[Ultraboy]

Tbh for me what ruins this server is cancerous ct's , nonstop camping secrets/vents , the one thing i hate is whenever u do that ump jump from cell u die instantly because a ct has to watch it and gives no chance to rebel . Why do t's always win the round atleast most of the time is because a gun gets into stack , warden dies othet t's get guns and kill other ct's . Also there should be a rule that if there is less than 10 t's alive and like 3+ ct's you are not allowed to be cancer , and if there is less than 15-20 t's the ct's and warden are not allowed to be cancer.

That's in conflict with one of my points, how do you define cancer? Is it admin discretion? I hope not..

 

[Ultraboy]

Yes. Yes. Yes.




I often shoot into a stack (not when it's fully packed) to kill a red, because they usually take a small step out of the stack to be able to kill CTs with their gun, or they're crouching in the stack, after throwing that useless nade that did literally nothing, except get them killed.
I agree that if you don't know how to, then you shouldn't - but I don't think that people should get punished for doing it when they know what they're doing.

In my opinion, shit like that is safe. If it's afk freeze and there's a red in stack, if ANYONE walks into your marker they're rebelling, therefore even if you shoot in stack you can't freekill. That is safe shooting, but braindead CT's don't understand that. I do the exact same thing and I've never freekilled, only saved rounds.

But at the same time, more times than not it results in freedamage. It's really a big ****up and there's no way to totally fix it.

 

[DDZ ZioNeX]

How do u accidentally knife, I'm assuming ur talking about afk freeze time. Just take ur hands off ur mouse and keyboard it's really not that hard. If u knife u should die lol, u can't follow a simple command. As for the last ct, they die pretty quick regardless of health. I agree with the stack spray tho, if u accidentally damage even another person u should be swapped. There is no reason for someone to try and pick one guy off in 50 for moving his damn pinky.

 

[Eric]

I agree woth "if the t is not a direct threat to the cts they should not be killed". If the the warden says unstack in the circle and your hand is slightly in another t they have the right to kill you because your technicaly not unstacked. Yes i have seen this before on pg jail. Or when warden says go to specific place like climb and you jump over a fence to get there faster you die b/c you didnt take the stairs(fyi the warden only said get to climb). Also you say knifing is not allowed when afk freeze is said so does this mean if i say afk freeze and get into red circle witch is small and i see all the ts knifing i can kill them even if it contridicts the no shooting into a stack rule or if i see 5 ts knifing catch there names and call kos on them thats also allowed correct? I dont think it should be since
1) its not a direct threat to the cts if im knifing and there 50ft away from me unless i have command pro perk on
2) if i did damage a ct with my knifing the ct should be swapped b/c if im able to knife you while afk frozen you are baiting and deserve to die

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[Taco]

I just have a couple comments about what you said Eric

If the the warden says unstack in the circle and your hand is slightly in another t they have the right to kill you because your technicaly not unstacked. Yes i have seen this before on pg jail.

This is completely wrong because as it says in the FAQ

40) If the warden gives a command to unstack between two markers without specifying how the prisoners should unstack what is considered unstacked?
The prisoners would be considered unstacked as long as their heads are not inside of each other

so what you witnessed was a freekill.

Or when warden says go to specific place like climb and you jump over a fence to get there faster you die b/c you didnt take the stairs(fyi the warden only said get to climb).

This is a freekill as it says in the rules if you are not delaying you should not be killed unless you didn't follow the warden's command

But these are just my opinions.

 

[EpicFlamingos]

If a terrorist is not an active threat to the round, such as being red, chasing a CT, two knifing distance steps out of a marker, holding a gun out for more than 3 seconds or actively running / moving during AFK Freeze, they should not be killed.

This is still kinda iffy, I don’t think it would be a good idea to have a rule like this, because some situations might come up where a T is a “threat to the round” and CTs can’t kill them if we have to specify like this, or we don’t specify and leave it up to discretion, and CTs kill people because they’re a “threat to the round”
We should really just leave it how it is. Don’t wanna die? Listen to what the warden says.

During Last CT the last guard should be swapped for 25 damage every 10 seconds to help move onwards to the next round. This would reduce wait times considerably without having a large gameplay effect.

I like this idea, would make things go faster at the end and prevent delay.

CTs who shoot into stacks such as miguel and shethicc should be swapped immediately. I believe that freedamage should be freedamage and the 50 damage rule removed. Being damaged for 42 health for no reason after being offered health and forced to play jumprope afterwords is completely unfair and unecessary.

Generally the reason CTs don’t get swapped for shooting into stack is because admins didn’t see it happen, and it’s hard to prove what happened based on a couple logs. It’s super iffy sometimes.
The 50 damage “rule” isn’t actually a thing, it’s something some people follow and some don’t. Personally, if someone tries to pull the whole “IT WASN’T 50 CAN’T SWAP ME LOL” then I’m swapping you because you clearly don’t care at all.

I often shoot into a stack (not when it's fully packed) to kill a red, because they usually take a small step out of the stack to be able to kill CTs with their gun, or they're crouching in the stack, after throwing that useless nade that did literally nothing, except get them killed.
I agree that if you don't know how to, then you shouldn't - but I don't think that people should get punished for doing it when they know what they're doing.

It used to be like that back in pG, then we merged and it changed all of the sudden. I like how it is now, CTs can’t be as cancer as they were before.

These are the rules i think that should be added are as follows :

-Ct's are not allowed to focus a t just because they rebel allot .
-You are not allowed to be cancer with 3-10 t's and 3+ Cts Alive , or if there is 0-20 Terrorists .
-You shouldn't do games that take over 2 min , if they do you should cancel the game and take all exept the last .
-1 out of 3 round could be super cancer, crouch walk afk everything , but the other 2 round shouldnt be as cancer.

These rules are not really something that can be enforced. It’s basically impossible to make that a rule without leaving it up to admin discretion, and some admins have different opinions on what cancer is.

The 2 min game rule really depends, if they take a really long time to do a game or explain a game, you can probably get away with swapping them for delay. It shouldn’t take that long to do a game.

2) if i did damage a ct with my knifing the ct should be swapped b/c if im able to knife you while afk frozen you are baiting and deserve to die

This is already a thing, there are some cases where CTs make mistakes (getting too close to cells and not realizing you can be knifed through them) and I try and be a bit more lenient in those cases, but CTs really shouldn’t be anywhere near the Ts, they have guns for a reason.

 

[Ultraboy]

How do u accidentally knife, I'm assuming ur talking about afk freeze time. Just take ur hands off ur mouse and keyboard it's really not that hard. If u knife u should die lol, u can't follow a simple command. As for the last ct, they die pretty quick regardless of health. I agree with the stack spray tho, if u accidentally damage even another person u should be swapped. There is no reason for someone to try and pick one guy off in 50 for moving his damn pinky.

But the point is not that afk freezing is hard, it's that if you knife either purposefully or accidentally, you're probably not at all a threat to the round if you're not moving. If you are, the CT baited you and you should be pardoned and not killed. Knifing accidentally isn't hard to do, as is jumping while sliding your hand off your mouse and onto your scroll wheel. I've done it like three times. Whether you're braindead or not, following a simple order is easy but should you have to wait 8 minutes for trying to have fun like jumping around?

 

[Ultraboy]

Tbh for me what ruins this server is cancerous ct's , nonstop camping secrets/vents , the one thing i hate is whenever u do that ump jump from cell u die instantly because a ct has to watch it and gives no chance to rebel . Why do t's always win the round atleast most of the time is because a gun gets into stack , warden dies othet t's get guns and kill other ct's . Also there should be a rule that if there is less than 10 t's alive and like 3+ ct's you are not allowed to be cancer , and if there is less than 15-20 t's the ct's and warden are not allowed to be cancer.

These are the rules i think that should be added are as follows :

-Ct's are not allowed to focus a t just because they rebel allot .
-You are not allowed to be cancer with 3-10 t's and 3+ Cts Alive , or if there is 0-20 Terrorists .
-You shouldn't do games that take over 2 min , if they do you should cancel the game and take all exept the last .
-1 out of 3 round could be super cancer, crouch walk afk everything , but the other 2 round shouldnt be as cancer.

How do you decide that a CT is focusing a T? I focus wzz all the time. He knows that, and he hates my guts. But how can an admin decide that they're being focused or someone else is? Call it admin discretion and just swap them because they don't like them, or swap them because they feel like they were focused when they weren't?

Again, how do you define cancer?

Then we need to get rid of half the games, such as hard climbs, oppinionated games, etc.

I don't see the purpose in that at all.

 

[Taco]

But the point is not that afk freezing is hard?

Just take your hands off your keyboard and mouse. Its not hard or bad its just boring.

 

[Rogue Sniper]

Every day we stray further from the light...

 

[MadBro]

Cancer: A term for diseases in which abnormal cells divide without control and can invade nearby tissues. Cancer cells can also spread to other parts of the body through the blood and lymph systems. There are several main types of cancer. Carcinoma is a cancer that begins in the skin or in tissues that line or cover internal organs. Sarcoma is a cancer that begins in bone, cartilage, fat, muscle, blood vessels, or other connective or supportive tissue. Leukemia is a cancer that starts in blood-forming tissue, such as the bone marrow, and causes large numbers of abnormal blood cells to be produced and enter the blood. Lymphoma and multiple myeloma are cancers that begin in the cells of the immune system. Central nervous system cancers are cancers that begin in the tissues of the brain and spinal cord. Also called malignancy.

 

[Eric]

E EpicFlamingos i was just saying how knifing should be allowed when afk frozen since the the ts arent a threat to the cts who should be a good distance away from them and Taco im just stating what has been seen by my when other admins on and nothing has happened to the ct.

As for the 25hp rule it sounds like a good idea but this will let people get to lr less. Ive seen a good amount of lrs that come from last ct b/c the ct is good at them game not camping and pursing so i would say no to this just b/c it would mean less lrs

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[Ultraboy]

Just take your hands off your keyboard and mouse. Its not hard or bad its just boring.

I just said that was not my point at all.

 

[DDZ ZioNeX]

But the point is not that afk freezing is hard, it's that if you knife either purposefully or accidentally, you're probably not at all a threat to the round if you're not moving. If you are, the CT baited you and you should be pardoned and not killed. Knifing accidentally isn't hard to do, as is jumping while sliding your hand off your mouse and onto your scroll wheel. I've done it like three times. Whether you're braindead or not, following a simple order is easy but should you have to wait 8 minutes for trying to have fun like jumping around?

Take hands off keyboard and mouse.

I can send u instructions on how this is done if u want.

 

[teimyw8]

There was a rule in the old jail rulebook that I really liked, it stated,

Be reasonable and issue warnings to prisoners when not in imminent danger.

Might clean up some of these problems.