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So apparently these ssd's are the way to go (for now), from what I've been studying. However, after doing some research I can't use it yet because my motherboards chipset more than likely can't support it (im currently on a z77 chipset). Here is my question for now; when it comes to upgrading to a newer motherboard, will it matter performance wise if I get a motherboard with the built in slot vs buying a pci-e card so that my newer mobo will be able to take full advantage of the drive? Right now I love how slender these ssd's are, but haven't heard anything about the energy output of them.

Just fyi, I am considering keeping my current Samsung 2.5" 500gb ssd & getting an additional NVMe ssd, on top of my hard drive (this might just be optional since I already have 2 externals with my system currently, so just kinda playing around with ideas).
 
Hey P pillar , the new stuff out there is pretty wild for speeds.

Z77 is definitely way to old for it. Anything in the past few years includes a few m.2 slots.

When you actually do a nice new build, get an m.2 one. But don't toss the PCI stuff into your current machine. Just get the 2.5" drives for that.
 
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Hey P pillar , the new stuff out there is pretty wild for speeds.

Z77 is definitely way to old for it. Anything in the past few years includes a few m.2 slots.

When you actually do a nice new build, get an m.2 one. But don't toss the PCI stuff into your current machine. Just get the 2.5" drives for that.
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NVMe is basically steroids for data transfer using PCIe.

crazy what this world is coming to with technology.
Simon Simon Who exactly would this benefit?
 
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Ric Ric everyone benefits from NVMe drives really. I'm happily enjoying now owning a significantly smaller computer because I didn't need to have space for drives. We can finally have great speeds and not need huge full size towers to accomplish having lots of space. I think it's awesome.

A lot of games have a pretty hefty amount of data now too. Along with that, many more people are recording/streaming their fun. Not getting bottlenecked by drive speeds is awesome.

Oh... and disgusting fast boot times. Everyone loves that.
 
Simon said:
Ric Ric everyone benefits from NVMe drives really. I'm happily enjoying now owning a significantly smaller computer because I didn't need to have space for drives. We can finally have great speeds and not need huge full size towers to accomplish having lots of space. I think it's awesome.

A lot of games have a pretty hefty amount of data now too. Along with that, many more people are recording/streaming their fun. Not getting bottlenecked by drive speeds is awesome.

Oh... and disgusting fast boot times. Everyone loves that.
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So, moderately, this would be for the advanced user or gamer? Not the common guy signing on to check his emails, watch some por--youtube videos and instant message his buddies?

I'm asking because I have a new PC, it's pretty fast. I think I posted about it some where..Boot time is really fast and games are fast..This wouldn't really benefit me any then? Except to make fast..well, faster? This would be more ideal when I build a new slimmer and faster PC?

Debating on if I should pick one up or not.

Thanks Simon Simon
 
Ric said:
So, moderately, this would be for the advanced user or gamer? Not the common guy signing on to check his emails, watch some por--youtube videos and instant message his buddies?

I'm asking because I have a new PC, it's pretty fast. I think I posted about it some where..Boot time is really fast and games are fast..This wouldn't really benefit me any then? Except to make fast..well, faster? This would be more ideal when I build a new slimmer and faster PC?

Debating on if I should pick one up or not.

Thanks Simon Simon
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If you're not doing the latest games or getting a bottleneck there from anything - Stick to conventional 2.5" SSD's for now. They are still really fantastic for your average-moderate user.

When you do your new build, we will get you setup proper :)
 
If you do photography editing, M2 drives are great because of the read/write speeds. Photoshop and Lightroom are hogs when it comes to data storage.

For what it's worth, Simon's posts are dead on, as usual. :)
 
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If you do photography editing, M2 drives are great because of the read/write speeds. Photoshop and Lightroom are hogs when it comes to data storage.

For what it's worth, Simon's posts are dead on, as usual. :)
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Read my mind. Editing a large batch of RAWs in Lightroom is terribad on a spinning drive, meh still on a regular SSD!
 
Hey guys, so ive been studying just the basics on M.2 drives. Now that my paycheck is coming in tomorrow, im looking at getting a 500gb M.2 drive but would like to know if there's a certain company that I need to keep my eye on when it comes to technology or if they're all about the same in terms of speed.
 
pillar said:
Hey guys, so ive been studying just the basics on M.2 drives. Now that my paycheck is coming in tomorrow, im looking at getting a 500gb M.2 drive but would like to know if there's a certain company that I need to keep my eye on when it comes to technology or if they're all about the same in terms of speed.
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Definitely read before you buy! There's many that run at conventional SSD read/write speeds. Some have faster read speeds, but slower write. They're priced appropriately based on this - cheaper ones will net you decent read speeds, but will see writes down closer to the 500-800MB/s mark, as opposed to what you'd optimally want to see out of them (1.5-3GB+)

pillar, what motherboard are you running now? I thought you said Z77, which would be quite old now.
 
Simon said:
Definitely read before you buy! There's many that run at conventional SSD read/write speeds. Some have faster read speeds, but slower write. They're priced appropriately based on this - cheaper ones will net you decent read speeds, but will see writes down closer to the 500-800MB/s mark, as opposed to what you'd optimally want to see out of them (1.5-3GB+)

pillar, what motherboard are you running now? I thought you said Z77, which would be quite old now.
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Hey Simon, yes I will be upgrading my whole setup because of this. Im taking a look at the Ryzen 5 cpus & trying to understand them. I will make sure to get a motherboard that has the pci slot space available so that I can easily put a future m.2 card there, which will be strictly for boot. Again I have an older Samsung 2.5" ssd that has yet to be open, so that will serve as game storage to help with load times. However, gotta be patient as im not really seeing any solid deals yet.
 
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Hey Simon, yes I will be upgrading my whole setup because of this. Im taking a look at the Ryzen 5 cpus & trying to understand them. I will make sure to get a motherboard that has the pci slot space available so that I can easily put a future m.2 card there, which will be strictly for boot. Again I have an older Samsung 2.5" ssd that has yet to be open, so that will serve as game storage to help with load times. However, gotta be patient as im not really seeing any solid deals yet.
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Likely won't see too many deals for a bit given the current worldwide situation :(

I have an m.2 in my laptop now, as well as my desktop is configured with one, then a regular 2.5" SSD (1TB) for all my games. I enjoy it. Also went with Ryzen 5 2600. Been VERY happy with it.
 
Simon said:
Likely won't see too many deals for a bit given the current worldwide situation :(

I have an m.2 in my laptop now, as well as my desktop is configured with one, then a regular 2.5" SSD (1TB) for all my games. I enjoy it. Also went with Ryzen 5 2600. Been VERY happy with it.
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Hey Simon, so I found this m.2 and would like your thoughts on it: https://www.newegg.com/western-digi...&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-zCSQNyZM3YWdtM6DArixCQ

My only question is, do I need a heatsink for it? Seeing as how ill be strictly using it to boot the os, I highly doubt that ill have anything to worry about. Now my 2.5" will take the beating & thats why im putting all my heavy stuff on it, because I know it can take the beating. Also im looking at the Ryzen 5 2600 as well, but haven't seen many complete with package (which is typical). Should I look into the typical aftermarket heatsink fan, even though I dont have plans to overclock it?
 
pillar said:
Hey Simon, so I found this m.2 and would like your thoughts on it: https://www.newegg.com/western-digi...&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-zCSQNyZM3YWdtM6DArixCQ

My only question is, do I need a heatsink for it? Seeing as how ill be strictly using it to boot the os, I highly doubt that ill have anything to worry about. Now my 2.5" will take the beating & thats why im putting all my heavy stuff on it, because I know it can take the beating. Also im looking at the Ryzen 5 2600 as well, but haven't seen many complete with package (which is typical). Should I look into the typical aftermarket heatsink fan, even though I dont have plans to overclock it?
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That one would be good! Solid read and write speeds.

The heatsink is more a factor playing in with heavy write loads, from what I've gathered. It'll definitely knock a few degrees off. It's worth noting that they don't start throttling performance even under stress, based on a few studies I've read, with or without the heatsink. Would it help for longevity? Sure. But I think for most scenarios, you may find the added price (looks like $50?!) to be a bit overkill for a few degrees.

Mine tends to sit around the ambient temperature in the case most of the time. Never noticed it be anywhere even remotely high.

But if you want it to be extra safe - looks like Newegg has that model WITH the heatsink for the same price as regular right now!
 
Hey Simon so I did some more reading into a few m.2 drives just to get a good idea as to their different speeds & apparently the one I mentioned & this one are pretty much the same. I guess im wondering if I should keep my eye on both and wait for a price drop? Also apparently they killed the deal on the one without the heatsink since that was $20 less than the one with the heatsink & thats why I posted it at the time.

https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-500gb/p/N82E16820147690?&quicklink=true
 
Hey P pillar , either one would be great for you. I'm not sure what kind of sales we might expect or when they might happen given everything going on in the world right now - but wouldn't be expecting to get a killer price reduction or sale anytime soon.
 
SSDs have a clear advantage with faster access through the PCIe serial bus standard. NVMe was built from scratch as a new way to efficiently access storage devices that are specifically built with non-volatile (flash) memory – SSDs. NVMe enables a faster interface for leveraging the speeds that SSDs are capable of.
 
Ric said:
So, some where..Boot time is really fast and games are fast..This wouldn't really benefit me any then? Except to make fast..well, faster? This would be more ideal when I build a new slimmer and faster PC?

Thanks
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Yep I have one Samsung 970 EVO plus 1TB SSD NVMe like what ric said it pretty super fast load, i just noticed bit different to SSD for example jump on battlefield V the SSD loading like 30-40sec but NVMe 10-15 sec loading on depends with motherboard, My new motherboard is Gigabyte Arous AM4 Master X570 it very expensive motherboard

(Edit) I have 2X 500GB SSD for windows/boots and spare SSD for gaming or windows stuff etc, 1TB SSD NVMe for gaming
 
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