Counter-Strike Not Planned Disallow Innocents from calling KOS

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So after getting some info on innocents calling KOS, I've learned that they're allowed to call KOS, but no other player can follow it. Some other things were mentioned about it regarding traitorous behavior, but I believe that if you are innocent / traitor, you should not be calling a KOS.

The only reason I bring traitors into this is that you don't know who a traitor is. For the most part, when we get new players, they see KOS and try to hunt the person to kill them. But since they aren't allowed to follow anyone but the detective KOS, it creates some situations for RDM.

If having a KOS called on you is suspicious, what good does that do for anyone else? There's no point in calling one. You can say the player is suspicious so that people can be careful around them. Regardless of whether someone calls KOS, they still need probable cause to kill someone. Someone could still report what they believe to be an RDM if an innocent kills them without typing it in chat first. And if someone sees a gunfight, they should let them finish that gunfight because it could either prove someone's innocence or add extra suspicion (I.E., not I.D. the body, IDing it and them being innocent, or IDing it and seeing it was a traitor.) which in turn could allow the detective to gather information leading up to a proper KOS.

It was also made clear to me that if someone calls a KOS on someone who is proven innocent, it's traitorous. But some people may follow this anyway, and the traitor can bait innocents into killing each other.

TL;DR

Let's disallow innocents from calling KOS entirely.

I know this is a lot of text just for 1 rule, but it's best to provide as much information regarding it as possible.
 
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So after getting some info on innocents calling KOS, I've learned that they're allowed to call KOS, but no other player can follow it. Some other things were mentioned about it regarding traitorous behavior, but I believe that if you are innocent / traitor, you should not be calling a KOS.

The only reason I bring traitors into this is that you don't know who a traitor is. For the most part, when we get new players, they see KOS and try to hunt the person to kill them. But since they aren't allowed to follow anyone but the detective KOS, it creates some situations for RDM.

If having a KOS called on you is suspicious, what good does that do for anyone else? There's no point in calling one. You can say the player is suspicious so that people can be careful around them. Regardless of whether someone calls KOS, they still need probable cause to kill someone. Someone could still report what they believe to be an RDM if an innocent kills them without typing it in chat first. And if someone sees a gunfight, they should let them finish that gunfight because it could either prove someone's innocence or add extra suspicion (I.E., not I.D. the body, IDing it and them being innocent, or IDing it and seeing it was a traitor.) which in turn could allow the detective to gather information leading up to a proper KOS.

It was also made clear to me that if someone calls a KOS on someone who is proven innocent, it's traitorous. But some people may follow this anyway, and the traitor can bait innocents into killing each other.

TL;DR

Let's disallow innocents from calling KOS entirely.

I know this is a lot of text just for 1 rule, but it's best to provide as much information regarding it as possible.
I dont think this would be even a good idea at all, think of all of the rdms that happens when trolls are on. It'll be chaotic and not order, IF the rule was revised to where a Detective says that someone is their Deputy AND is proven then they can call KOS' only if they seen a kill and what not.
 
I dont think this would be even a good idea at all, think of all of the rdms that happens when trolls are on. It'll be chaotic and not order, IF the rule was revised to where a Detective says that someone is their Deputy AND is proven then they can call KOS' only if they seen a kill and what not.
nobody can follow your KOS as an innocent even if you’re proven. it’s useless to allow people to call it and nobody can follow it. it already leads to RDMs as of now
 
really this still do RDMS, i never seeing them like that way of rdm as i intend to tell people to say inno kos on (person) so there is no confusion, but meh 12 hours a day on servers and people just look at a person and ask why you kill him, maybe i should get back on one day and teach the players again
 
Good idea. KOS is for when a detective IDs traitors. Innocents cannot ID, and if an inno sees traitor behavior, he can just shoot ‘em. Inno KOS confuses players and makes detective KOS’s harder to follow.
 
I think inno KOS has only ever caused problems because 1 of 2 things

1) other servers allow it and they’re somehow equal to a detective KOS

2) often people use it to have a new player RDM someone

What’s the point of a KOS if only the person who said it can follow it, at that point just announce you’re gonna kill them.
 
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