SPY RAAAAAGEE. "Ode to a Stair Stab."

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VALVE HOW DARE YOU TAKE AWAY STAIR STABS. RAAAAAAAAAGE.

Oh, you stair stab, how I will miss thee,
jumping over the heads of oblivious morons
and stabbing them in the back with glee.
Many a rage quit and domination galore,
I freaking hate you Valve,
Quoth the spy, nevermore.


;-;
 
How did they take away stair stabs?

As far as I know they just rewrote the backstab code in order to get less face stabs.

Is it just harder now to do stair stabs? Seems to me like it should still be possible, maybe a little harder but still very doable...
 
They're almost impossible now. They rewrote the backstab code, but the area where a backstab registers is now slightly bigger than the backburner detection cone. No stabbing from above or to the side.

So basically a sniper standing with his back to a wall can't be stabbed. Nice, Valve. Nice.
 
I'm failing to see the issue here. One cannot be backstabbed if their back is being covered by an object. Makes sense to me.
 
Foxhound said:
I'm failing to see the issue here. One cannot be backstabbed if their back is being covered by an object. Makes sense to me.
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Same here. This is something that's needed to be fixed for a while now.
 
I think it's fine considering the huge huge buff spies got with the cloak recharge
 
well i'm hoping noobs didn't notice you can change the weapon it shows you holding as spy, so to make them less detectable. hehe now i can run around as medic with ubersaw!
 
Spies need to remember that all they have to do is click the right button at the right time and SHAMWOW! They've just killed a fully overhealed heavy with a medic buddy. That's like really silly powerful.

But if it makes you feel better, the backstab animation is faster now, and the code seems all around less buggy (does this mean I won't be running right through 10 people when playing spy absolutly bugging out on every stab along the way? NICE)

So, it's a trade. You lost being able to bug yourself facestabs and headstabs and stairstabs, but now you can crouch cloaked on a Engie's dispenser (way too fun), and then stab the next heavy rush onto your base.

Remember, the buggy stab code hurt both the people being stabbed AND the spy who kept getting unregistered backstabs :D
 
So no headstabs? So I can't hop on top of an engi near his sentry, headstab him and sap his sentry as I fall???

:(
 
Kotah and I just did some extensive testing.

You can stairstab, you just need to be very precise. And you can stab on top of someone's head, you just have to be precise.

So basically new spies were nerfed and expert spies got a very slight advantage.
 
Phoenix Wright said:
So basically new spies were nerfed and expert spies got a very slight advantage.
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I would say being able to choose what weapon you want the enemy to see is a huge advantage, as well as being able to see enemy ID's AND having backstabs work correctly and quickly. I'm a "new" spy and I've never used stair stabs so it wont be missed. This is a much needed updated for all skill levels of the class.
 
Also.

If you're disguised as an enemy, if a cloaked enemy spy walks past your crosshair, his name will show up. I expect this will be patched soon.
 
Don't understand the crying over "stair stabs". They don't really work on anyone with half a brain. It's really only use is for people to say, "OMG I did something I saw one guy do in a youtube video! I'm cool now too!"
 
Paraplegic_Ballerina said:
I fail to see the point of this thread.
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Well that's hardly constructive to the thread. Not becoming of an admin I'd say.

On topic, I'm glad they fixed it. Like the other poor spies, I'd stab three people in a row in the back with no kill. And it totally makes sense if your back is to a wall that you can't be backstabbed.

Kudos on the fix!

Oh and to jshotzz: Pic or it didn't happen! ;)
 
Stairstabs exist, all the new spies just need to know something.

Delay is Gone, Stop stabbing early because you don't have the buffer zone of delay. You have to physically be behind them now as opposed to right on top of them. If you center is slightly behind their center and you're aiming towards their back, it'll work before you touch the ground.

The only thing thats gone is flickstabs, which hardly happened anyway.
 
Jeebus said:
Well that's hardly constructive to the thread. Not becoming of an admin I'd say.

On topic, I'm glad they fixed it. Like the other poor spies, I'd stab three people in a row in the back with no kill. And it totally makes sense if your back is to a wall that you can't be backstabbed.

Kudos on the fix!

Oh and to jshotzz: Pic or it didn't happen! ;)
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When they say your backs aginst the wall, what does that mean exactly. I mean a heavy sort of stands at an angle doesn't he? With his back a bit side ways, so a side stab is still possible on him, yes? Or am I just looking to much into it?
 
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