Spawn camping?
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Spawn camping in its most basic form, there as:
Is not allowed.
A variation of this is Exit Camping, where as:
is also not allowed.
The thing to do in each of these situations is to ask the player to move. In 8/10 situations they will comply. Remember that while it is bad, this is a team play game. If you are having problems exiting spawn, there are three exits in anyone spawn area - use them.
If a player is harrasing an area, more players than you will notice. Therefor, the player will be killed shortly. If it becomes so much of a problem that you can not kill them where they may be, or they will not move after being POLITELY asked -- have an admin on your steam friends list and hollar at them to help you
speaking of which
steam/edge/vent/anything ever :
featherfoot07
Is not allowed.
A variation of this is Exit Camping, where as:
is also not allowed.
The thing to do in each of these situations is to ask the player to move. In 8/10 situations they will comply. Remember that while it is bad, this is a team play game. If you are having problems exiting spawn, there are three exits in anyone spawn area - use them.
If a player is harrasing an area, more players than you will notice. Therefor, the player will be killed shortly. If it becomes so much of a problem that you can not kill them where they may be, or they will not move after being POLITELY asked -- have an admin on your steam friends list and hollar at them to help you
speaking of which
steam/edge/vent/anything ever :
featherfoot07
Yeah, that too.
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Wait, you guys had just said (somewhere in another post) that exit camping on dust was allowed- only spawn camping (which covers three things in dust apparently- hugging the spawn walls, being IN spawn, or nading into/rpg'ing/firing into spawn *when no one is shooting out of it*) is not allowed. If something changed, please clarify so I'm not messing things up when I admin.
Alright, im tired of this. Let me tell you why everyone is confused about spawn camping. You get admins that are not regulars coming into dust and they tell the regular players that spawn camping is not allowed, then you get the actual regular admins coming in telling them the actual rules. Can you guys please read updates on this in the admin section!? You're confusing a lot of people. Every other server does NOT allow spawn camping of any sort.
24/7 Dust 2 : Allowed
Rotation : Not Allowed
Firefight : Not Allowed
24/7 Dust 2 : Allowed
Rotation : Not Allowed
Firefight : Not Allowed
In all honesty, if anyone asks me to not spawn camp, whether they are an admin or not, whether I am near their spawn or not, I back off a bit. If someone is complaining about what I am doing it means they are not enjoying the game. I'd rather play with a hand behind my back to make guests to the server happy than argue over what is and is not spawncamping.
This is the purpose behind the rule. I mean, think about it. As fun as it may be for half the group to spawn camp, you'll end up shooting at walls which is no fun for anyone. Once people start rage quitting, the situation has all ready done too much damage. Good sportsmanship and common courtesy come into play here. Practicing of those two values will help reduce the need for an admin to take action in the first place.
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THIS IS HOW EVERYONE SHOULD BE PLAYING THIS GAME!
ESPECIALLY DUST!
When i get on a server, if that other team is getting owned, i love to switch and go againts the bigger better team. Its a challenge that will only make ME better!
besides it usually means i get to kill me some EGO MEMBERS!
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The only reason behind spawn camping in dust is because you have about 3 different exits, half the time Marines dont know that the best way to get out of spawn after the game starts is to simply go up the ladder ! LOL :facewall:
Marines are soo well protected, but instead they want to be :confused1: and exit areas that are always covered by INS.
Its because Marines have such a well placed protection is why they get funnel in the camp.
Thats why you go up the ladder and clear hot spots with my baby the 203!
PROBLEM SOLVED! :scared:
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I know guys you were asking me about this the other night. Dust is a completely different beast. In dust it is tolerated. This is for a number of reasons.
First, as Drunken state, you have multiple exits out of spawn. It is rare that a good team cannot push back the campers.
Second, unlike the other maps, dust is one where many people actually like to sit in spawn shooting out. Well, if they can shoot out, you should be allowed to shoot back.
Third, the map is pretty small, and it is nearly impossible to not end up around the spawn exits at times.
Lastly, while the rules are in place for the enjoyment of the players, it is also for the enjoyment of the admins. Dust is already tough enough (I often spend a significant portion of my limited gametime in spec cleaning out the punks). Trying to enforce a spawn camping rule is near impossible.
Quite frankly, with Dust, the issue around the spawns is an integral part of that map. Dust is like a no holds barred ulitimate fighting match. It is brutal. Sometimes it is even frustrating. But it is also a fun challenge.
Bottom line, and I don't mean to make this sound harsh, but in effect if you are the type that doesn't like sometimes getting stuck having to fight your way out of spawn, then dust just isn't the map for you.
Really, it is the fault of the team that is being spawn camped on dust2. They should easily drive off the opposing team, i do it by myself. If im on the insurgent's team and i notice that im able to walk from bravo to alpha all around the spawn exits and my team is completely bombarding marines as they come out, i tell them to back off a little bit. Usually they do back off just enough to get clobbered by 203s and then the marines come right on back out. That is my only problem with spawn camping it completely lowers morale and if i dont do something quick i could lose valuable players. Most of the time ill join the marines and help them out of their hole.
But regardless, the rules on that server are different from the others. I've had to explain this many-a-time to admins. I'm not trying to be an ass but if you can't stand someone spawn camping to the point you have to punish them in dust2 i think its best you don't come in. Do it the old fashioned way, kick their scrawny tails out of the spawn area with a good spray of lead and HE Grenades.
But regardless, the rules on that server are different from the others. I've had to explain this many-a-time to admins. I'm not trying to be an ass but if you can't stand someone spawn camping to the point you have to punish them in dust2 i think its best you don't come in. Do it the old fashioned way, kick their scrawny tails out of the spawn area with a good spray of lead and HE Grenades.
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i hate the spawn killing, in sinjar and almaden is out of control, need a admin of Full-time.
Today, only "Ften"
did well ( although the wrong punished for TK ?? ) but sorry but there are admins who do not either, because they should ignore it or do not care. were doing spawn killing, and makes excuses ...
Today, only "Ften"
did well ( although the wrong punished for TK ?? ) but sorry but there are admins who do not either, because they should ignore it or do not care. were doing spawn killing, and makes excuses ...
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i hate the spawn killing, in sinjar and almaden is out of control, need a admin of Full-time.
Today, only "Ften"
If a sniper is on top of the hill side and sniping you as you get out of spawn, thats fine.
What you should do is exit the other exit and 203 that door or hillside, or take initiative and get on the awsome machine gun marines have called the SAW.
Then you can cover your marines, remember guys when getting owned by the other team frustration can and will happen, but its these moments that you can get another ego member and work as a team.
Many times it will lead to pubs wanting to play with your tactics as they notice the tactics works.
Even if you have 2 ego members in the same side that is getting owned, if you both work together and communicate in game people will hear you, and they will follow your lead.
I know lots of pubs that play rambo, but even they turn into great team players when you overcome ownage especially in sinjar.
Any of us veterans can tell you how awsome it is to get all the pubs together and work as a team and take A.
Now for those INS that go in the valley, simple w/k/b (for 1hr)
Szzzrk... Hrmmph... Ergh... Erm... Mnhhh!
The... SAW... is... NOT... a... machinegun... It is an automatic rifle.
Ok. Conniption fit over.
I'm better now. ; )
Then again, the DMR is not a sniping rifle either so... And they are mags, not clips (except for the SKS)! Oh well...
I treat spawn camping in any eGO server in any map the way I treat exit camping. If they are waiting on the enemy to get out of spawn I warn them. I feel like a broken record most of the time. I'm a very VERY chillax admin so I don't really kick very often. In some cases maps like sinjar if your a insurgent watching the hut of position A i treat that as spawn camping/exit camping.
