J-J-J-JAIL POLL: What do you hate about Jail?

[JavaBasher]

Probably when admins spam admin chat so all I see is green chat, then miss things being typed out by pubs, because of it.

 

[RPD Leon S. Kennedy]

Only reason I leave jail is because I get bored and go to highschool and rack up some kills from 25 pointers Im like rank 403 xp Spent like 3 months of my life killing xp

 

[Spitfire'd]

Not having read everyone's responses, I will give mine:

First off, Ric I am sorry and I take full responsibility for this decline. Back in the day we tag teamed the late night hours and made the server tons of fun. We kept a great lively group going in there. Life just gets busy. My fault.

Second, I don't play jail late at night because even when there are only 5 people playing (2 CT's, 3 T's) the few playing CT still issue ridiculously strict orders and don't understand the concept of having fun.

Sure, you need to follow jail rules, but when there are so few people in the server the warden has to understand if he doesn't loosen up people are not going to stay. You need to give lax rules and interact more with the players. Don't be so trigger happy.

Player interaction is the key here. Have fun with the T's. Talk directly to them. When there are fewer people in the server you can engage them more and make it more interactive, which is an important element in a successful role play server.

I don't like the argument that there is nothing to do on our maps, a creative warden always has exciting stuff and can engage the T's and involve them in the map to make it fun. There's a reason Prison Break is still my favorite map after all this time.

So CT's, please, as the numbers start to dwindle in the late night rounds, remember to relax, take your finger off that left mouse button and have some fun with people who are looking to do just the same. If you get upset when a T stabs you maybe you shouldn't be a CT in the first place, or you should populate one of the other wonderful CSS servers.

- My 2 cents.

Now if we still had Forest...(LOL JUST KIDDING! )

EDIT: Pro-Tip for anyone looking to improve their wardening: Don't play Temptation, don't play Couch Game. Don't play Simon Says. Ever. Your acceptance by other players as a good warden just went up 30%

 

[BCA]

1) I leave Jail because I get killed for a simple, silly order. Like be 90 degrees to the right, but I'm facing the cell.

2) I leave Jail because instead of someone taking their time to explain where stuff is, they'd rather shoot us.

3) I leave Jail because the rounds are too long, and I don't have the patience to sit in spectate.

27) kids with bad mics spamming in all the time.......CT's who do not want to be warden >>> go T .... spectators___ some that sit for hours just specing

 

[dotPHUNK]

1 and 2 for me. The rules can some times be "toooooooooo" strict. If you clearly enunciate your rules and repeat AND make sure no one is talking over you. Make sure you WARN people. Some times I totally forget where something is and when I go the wrong way I get shot for "detouring" or not following orders. I'm just asking for a simple warning first. If the order is, "Jump once." and I run at you trying to stab you... no need for a warning, but if you say go to disco and I run toward the pool cause I think that's disco please give me a warning, not like every map has an AWP in the pool.

>.>

 

[GlobalRoyal]

I love everything about jail. eGO Jail is a great place to be.

 

[iOprah]

1. No Forrest.
2. No Forrest.
3. No Prospekt.
4. No Forrest.

Also, when jail was first started about 2.5 years ago, there were no fancy rules or anything like that. Jail was fun, and people used common sense. No one tried to exploit each and every rule like they do today. There were no STS or anything, but it was fun. Freekilling at most was the only problem in jail. Why can't that happen today? Oh yeah an Dr. Compton knows about this. (Being a freekiller and playing old jail) (JK, about the first one).

So yeah I hate jail because now it is sooo complex, complex rules, complex maps, and complex orders. All the maps used to have were a playground and soccer field, and a pool. No climb or simon, or death traps. We didn't play simon says, because it was banned, and we didn't even know about couch game. All the rules used to be get out of your cells and line up outside cell block. No back out fo your cells face 180 degrees and no moving. There was only 1 rule, no freekilling. And this when on like this for about 6 months to a year.


-Oprah

 

[iOprah]

I love everything about jail. eGO Jail is a great place to be.

This sounds like someone in North Korea or some other communist/dictator talking about their "dear leader" lol.

 

[Niiro]

2) I leave Jail because instead of someone taking their time to explain where stuff is, they'd rather shoot us.

3) I leave Jail because the rounds are too long, and I don't have the patience to sit in spectate.

7) I leave Jail because there is no new maps. Hopefully, Rogue/Christy/Captain will get some new maps out soon!

Oh... and a new one...

28) I leave Jail because I hate just sitting around dead or alive as a T/Dead CT when none of the 5 or 6 remaining CTs either A) Haven't realized the warden died B) Don't have a mic in conjunction with A. It's practically a freeday when this happens and no one seems to care.

I remember a few years back when I started playing jailbreak, and I come here and I'm not used to STs, couch game, and so on. I remember having hilarious CTs, the time of my life planning ways while everyone's having fun, and NOT raging at someone's messed up orders, and getting so nitty gritty with each and every detail of the orders. This server is just way too strict and I'm about to just.. Go back to some of the lesser strict servers still out there, sorry.

I remember a server where ba_jail_rebel and it's billion variations were the thing to play. I remember a server where the Ts could choose, instead of normal skins, a teletubby skin or something absolutely absurd. I remember the actual !lr plugins, and I don't have a HUGE problem without it, but I like having a good, clean knife fight where I can SEE the CT I'm fighting in front of me, without hundreds of the same skin CTs trying to be funny running around with a knife and screwing with me.

I remember playing ACTUAL games, like tag, hide and go seek, red light green light, cops and robbers, and making up our own absurd games; None of this repetitive couch game, simon says, temptation, it's lr. I wish people would just skip these games, they've gotten repetitive and I've only been on this server for about a month.

And ABSOLUTELY, hands DOWN, if this was the ONE thing I could bring back, I would love to see more CT involved games. None of this stay-50-feet-away-for-fear-of-getting-knifed stuff. I remember getting close to 15 Ts, all of them able to stab me at any time, but they won't, 'cuz we're just chilling, being lax, and everyone's just having fun. Sure, there'd be a few rebellers, but normally they'd be taken out swiftly and quickly. Last CT never camped, etc, etc.

And I'm getting into too much detail, I know, however:
tl;dr
I miss when jailbreak was FUN, and not strict.

/endrant

 

[Bllaze]

So it's the repetition of games, old maps, and being killed for something silly.

I've already summed up a solution to the strict killings.
As for repetition of games, don't play it. Rebel and take your chances. Don't like a game? Find a loophole in the order or just rebel.

If you happen to catch yourself on the Guard team, stop and ask yourself.."I just complained about couch game in Ric's thread. I wouldn't want to play couch game, so let's not make the Prisoners do it." or be a hypocrite, the choice is yours.

Maps is out of everyones control, except for those in Leadership and dedicated map makers. The only solution I can think of is you make a map yourself and submit it to Leadership via dropbox or PM.

Personal stats from Jail 5 months ago compared to now is horrible. If it's not enough people in the server, it's the freekilling. If it isn't the freekilling, it's the severity of the Guards. If it isn't the severity of the Guards, its blah blah blah. The rules were reformed, so that can't be it.

Spark the revolution and end the command chains. Instead of having everyone freeze and go knifing distance, give them the ability to move. Instead of having everyone shift walk to couch game, tell them to run to pool. Will they rebel? Probably, but that's why they're Prisoners and you're a Guard: Stop them! Talent is worthless unless exercised.

All these complaints are really self-resolvable if you'd just take a minute and think instead of acting on your rage of reasons and not returning to Jail.

My reasons are just echoes of the previous reasons Ric.
The TARPING by cts is rediculous. Especially when orders are verbalized at the speed of light . Not to mention sounding as if they were said as one continuous word.
And when I ask in chat or on the mic.....( usually both ) for them to be repeated I am killed and told that my request was not before the 3 second deadline given to carry out the orders.
Dont get me wrong I LOVE playing jail. And you can count on me rebelling any chance I get. (Usually unsuccessfully)
But when the alternative is getting killed for jumping first after hearing simon say that WE ARE PLAYING FIRST REACTION LAST REACTION. AND NEXT HEARING LAST REACTION JUMP AND THAT NOT BEING INTENTIONAL TARPING.
Well as I said I am always an unhappy t.
So if I can even get a stab in on a CT I will.
Oh and lastly the crosstalk over the warden by ct's or t's is annoying.
Thanks Ric for making it possible to air this stuff with out it being something leadership has to deal with.
Edge Gamers Organization has the most dedicated leadership and members by far.
I have been playing fps and other online games for more than 15 years.
One thing to always remember.....When you stop having fun.....it is time to take a break . It is all about having fun .
I love eGO and its members.:thumbup:
Thanks for listening.

 

[Lava]

I miss the Starscream/Mr. Winters era. Where orders were scary yet fun. Everyone just had a good time back then.

 

[Ric]

2) I leave Jail because instead of someone taking their time to explain where stuff is, they'd rather shoot us.

3) I leave Jail because the rounds are too long, and I don't have the patience to sit in spectate.

7) I leave Jail because there is no new maps. Hopefully, Rogue/Christy/Captain will get some new maps out soon!

Oh... and a new one...

28) I leave Jail because I hate just sitting around dead or alive as a T/Dead CT when none of the 5 or 6 remaining CTs either A) Haven't realized the warden died B) Don't have a mic in conjunction with A. It's practically a freeday when this happens and no one seems to care.

I remember a few years back when I started playing jailbreak, and I come here and I'm not used to STs, couch game, and so on. I remember having hilarious CTs, the time of my life planning ways while everyone's having fun, and NOT raging at someone's messed up orders, and getting so nitty gritty with each and every detail of the orders. This server is just way too strict and I'm about to just.. Go back to some of the lesser strict servers still out there, sorry.

I remember a server where ba_jail_rebel and it's billion variations were the thing to play. I remember a server where the Ts could choose, instead of normal skins, a teletubby skin or something absolutely absurd. I remember the actual !lr plugins, and I don't have a HUGE problem without it, but I like having a good, clean knife fight where I can SEE the CT I'm fighting in front of me, without hundreds of the same skin CTs trying to be funny running around with a knife and screwing with me.

I remember playing ACTUAL games, like tag, hide and go seek, red light green light, cops and robbers, and making up our own absurd games; None of this repetitive couch game, simon says, temptation, it's lr. I wish people would just skip these games, they've gotten repetitive and I've only been on this server for about a month.

And ABSOLUTELY, hands DOWN, if this was the ONE thing I could bring back, I would love to see more CT involved games. None of this stay-50-feet-away-for-fear-of-getting-knifed stuff. I remember getting close to 15 Ts, all of them able to stab me at any time, but they won't, 'cuz we're just chilling, being lax, and everyone's just having fun. Sure, there'd be a few rebellers, but normally they'd be taken out swiftly and quickly. Last CT never camped, etc, etc.

And I'm getting into too much detail, I know, however:
tl;dr
I miss when jailbreak was FUN, and not strict.

/endrant

While it isn't a rule, if majority of the CTs do not have a microphone, let admins know. We like to encourage the CTs with no mic to play T so the Ts with a microphone can play CT. But, you also gotta keep in mind, not everyone wants to give orders or use their microphone. It may be for personal reasons, it may be just because they don't feel like it.

All maps fall under a certain criteria managed by CS:S Leadership. That's why eGO Jail maps are often in better quality then what you see on other servers. Remember, maps have backrounds too. What you see is often just the map, and not the source behind it. There needs to be no exploits, etc.

If you earn your LR, it must be fair. That means, if CTs are interrupting a LR you earned, it is considered griefing and is against server rules. You need to alert an administrator so we can handle it. We don't use the !lr plugin because
1) Bear codes his own plugin and it's great. Not trying to kiss ass here, but I really appreciate his hard work.
2) Be creative. Using a !lr plugin limits the things you can do. Why earn a LR and then be dictated to do a certain activity?

We still play hide and go seek. We still play stop and go(red light, green light). We still play tag. Infact, we played these games last night during the overnight hours. Maybe you should aim for the overnight hours for a relaxed atmosphere. During overnight hours, my goal is to enforce the rules with sensitivity. I encourage fellow admins to just play instead of admining and let me worry about the decision making during the overnight hours, when I am on. This ensures that the rules are still met, while having a positive fun gaming atmosphere.

We must make the game fair. While it is a Terrorists job to rebel, it is also a CTs job to handle a rebellion. Being within knifing distance violates the rules and makes it easy for the Ts to rebel. You must plan. You must take action. You must strike with no fear, and at all extremities. For at that point, there is no return. Go berserk, rebel, kill all the CTs, and create a flesh storm. Hopefully, I've cleared this up a bit for you and I encourage you to visit us overnight. :thumbup:

 

[PhaseXero]

I miss the Starscream/Mr. Winters era. Where orders were scary yet fun. Everyone just had a good time back then.

Starscream needs an encore performance. I miss him too.

Spyder + Starscream = Epic Lulz

 

[Kami]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ madsss ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^