Oorange the issue is mech being alone would be fine if we had skyguard lightnings or aa max but as you said it is not something we wanna force. So we gotta keep that in mind all mech will get utterly crushed with very few counters at its disposal unless the air is around them to cover.
Planetside 2: Ops Night
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Thanks for the feedback Matt.
1. We decided to use the mechanized squad in a support role. The Airborne squad has the benefit of moving fast, remaining mobile, and even having air support in the form on Liberators and Mosquitoes. Making the airborne squad wait for the mech squad would waste these advantages. For the majority of the event we were pretty much the only TR attacking in the various territories we covered. We also had light resistance. If we had encountered heavier resistance the airborne squad would have had to rely on the mech squad for support. The short comings of the mech squad ( not anyone's fault, just intrinsic flaws in regards to speed, etc.) were definitively present. In the following events I hope to use a majority of air assault tactics with varied use of mech squads. However, each battle and continent is different.
2. Waiting for ground reinforcements is a tedious yet crucial necessity. Although driving a lone sunderer to an area and attacking works most of the time, the sunderer is exposed and can become an easy victim. This can also take away the element of surprise and overwhelming numbers that the Airborne squad specializes in. Again, the mech squad is a support squad. As stated in the event thread, this style of gameplay won't result in (often pointless) large skirmishes to assume control of a Biolab or other large facility. Instead we surround the area we want and take it. If you want constant action it's there 24/7 on a hot-drop during the rest of the week.
3. The lack of air support is news to me, I never heard of it having a large impact on the mech squad. This should have been addressed and altered during the event. We could have sent aerial reinforcements or augmented the mech unit to include some AA capabilities. This will be addressed during the next event.
4. Again, tactics and strategy often involve avoiding direct conflict. In real-world battles the minimum amount of troops required to take even a ligthly defended position is 3:1. For most battles we have respawns but smaller numbers. As previously mentioned, some attacks or coordinated movements remove the advantage of our airborne squad. In face-to-face battles the mech squad is better able to conduct a long, drawn out fight. Again: "as stated in the event thread, this style of gameplay won't result in (often pointless) large skirmishes to assume control of a Biolab or other large facility. Instead we surround the area we want and take it. If you want constant action it's there 24/7 on a hot-drop during the rest of the week."
Thanks a lot for your feedback. You brought up some good points especially in regards to the lack of AA capabilities for the mech squad. if you have any recommendations to improve the points you brought up please let us know. However, I believe that the overall tactics are somewhat lost when engaging enemies on the ground. This is likely due to a lack of communication and clarification on the overall goal. The majority of the time I ordered the mech and air squads to attack the same location but ended up deviating their respective goals as the movement of enemies changed. I apologize to all the stragglers who got crappy orders in Charlie squad, I was extremely distracted with the outfit's operations and using both Vent and TS3. I'll do my best to include you guys next week.
Overall, I was extremely impressed by the performance of all three squads. This week's event displayed what we can do as an outfit and what all of you can do during the rest of the week. The battlefield is constantly changing and any tactics require constant reassessment. Flexibility is the key when formulating and carrying out a strategy. However, everyone should realize that capturing a large portion of the map doesn't require long fights, it often earns you less experience, and can mean waiting for whole minutes at a time, but carries the rewards of disrupting enemy activities and ultimately controlling a continent.
P.S.
To all citizens of the Terran Republic,
During Ops Night DO NOT attend if you just want to get XP or to hot-drop into a never-ending stalemate-- you can do this for the other 165 hours of the week. However, if you want to play as a part of a cohesive unit and use strategy to destroy the NC and VS please join us every Friday for this event.
1. We decided to use the mechanized squad in a support role. The Airborne squad has the benefit of moving fast, remaining mobile, and even having air support in the form on Liberators and Mosquitoes. Making the airborne squad wait for the mech squad would waste these advantages. For the majority of the event we were pretty much the only TR attacking in the various territories we covered. We also had light resistance. If we had encountered heavier resistance the airborne squad would have had to rely on the mech squad for support. The short comings of the mech squad ( not anyone's fault, just intrinsic flaws in regards to speed, etc.) were definitively present. In the following events I hope to use a majority of air assault tactics with varied use of mech squads. However, each battle and continent is different.
2. Waiting for ground reinforcements is a tedious yet crucial necessity. Although driving a lone sunderer to an area and attacking works most of the time, the sunderer is exposed and can become an easy victim. This can also take away the element of surprise and overwhelming numbers that the Airborne squad specializes in. Again, the mech squad is a support squad. As stated in the event thread, this style of gameplay won't result in (often pointless) large skirmishes to assume control of a Biolab or other large facility. Instead we surround the area we want and take it. If you want constant action it's there 24/7 on a hot-drop during the rest of the week.
3. The lack of air support is news to me, I never heard of it having a large impact on the mech squad. This should have been addressed and altered during the event. We could have sent aerial reinforcements or augmented the mech unit to include some AA capabilities. This will be addressed during the next event.
4. Again, tactics and strategy often involve avoiding direct conflict. In real-world battles the minimum amount of troops required to take even a ligthly defended position is 3:1. For most battles we have respawns but smaller numbers. As previously mentioned, some attacks or coordinated movements remove the advantage of our airborne squad. In face-to-face battles the mech squad is better able to conduct a long, drawn out fight. Again: "as stated in the event thread, this style of gameplay won't result in (often pointless) large skirmishes to assume control of a Biolab or other large facility. Instead we surround the area we want and take it. If you want constant action it's there 24/7 on a hot-drop during the rest of the week."
Thanks a lot for your feedback. You brought up some good points especially in regards to the lack of AA capabilities for the mech squad. if you have any recommendations to improve the points you brought up please let us know. However, I believe that the overall tactics are somewhat lost when engaging enemies on the ground. This is likely due to a lack of communication and clarification on the overall goal. The majority of the time I ordered the mech and air squads to attack the same location but ended up deviating their respective goals as the movement of enemies changed. I apologize to all the stragglers who got crappy orders in Charlie squad, I was extremely distracted with the outfit's operations and using both Vent and TS3. I'll do my best to include you guys next week.
Overall, I was extremely impressed by the performance of all three squads. This week's event displayed what we can do as an outfit and what all of you can do during the rest of the week. The battlefield is constantly changing and any tactics require constant reassessment. Flexibility is the key when formulating and carrying out a strategy. However, everyone should realize that capturing a large portion of the map doesn't require long fights, it often earns you less experience, and can mean waiting for whole minutes at a time, but carries the rewards of disrupting enemy activities and ultimately controlling a continent.
P.S.
To all citizens of the Terran Republic,
During Ops Night DO NOT attend if you just want to get XP or to hot-drop into a never-ending stalemate-- you can do this for the other 165 hours of the week. However, if you want to play as a part of a cohesive unit and use strategy to destroy the NC and VS please join us every Friday for this event.
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Two things I would suggest is...
1 Leaders who want to run the ops practice with the regulars once or twice a week to get a better feel. The tank squad especially needs experience in terrain. We waited for tanks from warp gate when we was near enemy gate. We could have used several tank spawning areas along way to get it. IF a leader doesn't know they should at least ask where a nearby tank spawn is so we can reinforce faster. There are huge strategic areas and these should be known by leaders.
2 Pick maps where both Air and ground can get. Avoid Amerish it is extremely hard for a mech unit to navigate so for sake of having the squads meet up fairly well it should be advoided. Indar is also hard due to some of the canyons, but not to bad unless you are attacking skydock ( air only can hit it) or the Crater west of the warpgate ( tanks have a hard time going around so there is kind of air only if you go to opposite side.)
Also keep in mind during week we navigate a lot to capture points most of our time is not farming exp at fighting areas. Most of the time we are strategically taking the map and raising hell against the other factions movements
1 Leaders who want to run the ops practice with the regulars once or twice a week to get a better feel. The tank squad especially needs experience in terrain. We waited for tanks from warp gate when we was near enemy gate. We could have used several tank spawning areas along way to get it. IF a leader doesn't know they should at least ask where a nearby tank spawn is so we can reinforce faster. There are huge strategic areas and these should be known by leaders.
2 Pick maps where both Air and ground can get. Avoid Amerish it is extremely hard for a mech unit to navigate so for sake of having the squads meet up fairly well it should be advoided. Indar is also hard due to some of the canyons, but not to bad unless you are attacking skydock ( air only can hit it) or the Crater west of the warpgate ( tanks have a hard time going around so there is kind of air only if you go to opposite side.)
Also keep in mind during week we navigate a lot to capture points most of our time is not farming exp at fighting areas. Most of the time we are strategically taking the map and raising hell against the other factions movements
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wow yeti you use the same term as my mother. Never seen anyone else use "Pissing contest" before.
To help out a little bit. Usually we do not want to over due ourselves in strict game play. Some people like playing it with the most tactical feeling while others just want to be apart of the train and travel from part A to part B.
What can i say? Some people like being the sheep while we have our Sheppard's. I mean come on we all like to play as Arnold Schwarzenegger and blow everything up. Try not to over-analyze the situations and always and i mean ALWAYS speak up at the event if you need support. If you can't get it hunker down and make due with what you have.
Now for comic relief
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn_J425eo3Q[/ame]
To help out a little bit. Usually we do not want to over due ourselves in strict game play. Some people like playing it with the most tactical feeling while others just want to be apart of the train and travel from part A to part B.
What can i say? Some people like being the sheep while we have our Sheppard's. I mean come on we all like to play as Arnold Schwarzenegger and blow everything up. Try not to over-analyze the situations and always and i mean ALWAYS speak up at the event if you need support. If you can't get it hunker down and make due with what you have.
Now for comic relief
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn_J425eo3Q[/ame]
Is it necessarily arguing to make suggestions? :confused1:
I can totally see that during the ops themselves, ya take your orders and ya get 'er done. Absolutely! There's a time for everything.
Some brainstorming and review after the fact though would kinda seem reasonable though wouldn't it? Maybe? Kinda? Slightly? No? Drats.
I ran with an eGO platoon this morning. It had been a really long time since I joined an eGO platoon. Man was I psyched!!
It was a thing of beauty. We took Crown with the fewest deaths and fastest time I've experienced in a looong time.
We had two squads :chair: the NC to their warpgate, and two squads :chair: the VS to their warpgate!
What a great feeling when we capped the continent.
That's what the other 165 hours of the week are all about too man
That's the kind of thing that makes me miss running with you guys more often!
Edit: Red and Blue, what's it make? Purple Rain! :laugh:
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