Building a budget PC for a friend, budget of $530. any more suggestions?

[milkdud657]

Anything better that you can suggest that might be cheaper? I have until Thursday to make any changes before he orders.

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[Snipeye]

Do you have to buy it from Amazon.com? I would assume newegg.com and tigerdirect.com would offer better prices and discounts (free S&H anyone?)

Also, a micro ATX mobo is really limiting, but on that budget, sacrifices must be made.

Two things that you may have intentionally omitted, but wanted to check:
1) OS
2) Hard drive

Side note: Reading some reviews on the CPU, some people say the stock heatsink runs a bit too loud or hot. That may be a future upgrade though.

 

[milkdud657]

Do you have to buy it from Amazon.com? I would assume newegg.com and tigerdirect.com would offer better prices and discounts (free S&H anyone?)

Also, a micro ATX mobo is really limiting, but on that budget, sacrifices must be made.

Two things that you may have intentionally omitted, but wanted to check:
1) OS
2) Hard drive

Side note: Reading some reviews on the CPU, some people say the stock heatsink runs a bit too loud or hot. That may be a future upgrade though.

He's got the HDD and OS covered. And i did it on newegg and tigerdirect and it was actually more expensive

 

[Kiririn]

He's got the HDD and OS covered. And i did it on newegg and tigerdirect and it was actually more expensive

More...expensive.....what?...
That is a bit of a shock. Usually Amazon is at least 25% more expensive lol.

Good luck on that build though. Hope your friend enjoys it ^^

 

[Snipeye]

More...expensive.....what?...
That is a bit of a shock. Usually Amazon is at least 25% more expensive lol

Thinking about it, it could be a Memorial Day Sale on Amazon; Newegg and Tigerdirect had their sale on other products that he did not chose. I know Newegg was offering a % off on hard drives (which he didn't need).

 

[maD]

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/AMD-A10-5800K-3-8Ghz-Processor-AD580KWOHJBOX/dp/B0095VP8D4/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&srs=2528920011&ie=UTF8&qid=1369792318&sr=1-5"]AMD A10-5800K APU 3.8Ghz[/ame] - $129.17

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Socket-MicroATX-Motherboard-FM2A75M-DGS/dp/B009M47V1Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1369796314&sr=1-1&keywords=ASRock+FM2A75M-DGS"]ASRock MicroATX Motherboard FM2A75M-DGS[/ame] - 54.99

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-mini-Displayport-PCI-Express-Graphic-GV-R785OC-2GD/dp/B007PJTNYS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1369793845&sr=8-3&keywords=7850+3gb"]Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7850 2 GB[/ame] - $184.99

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004RFGALC/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0VZDS3FE4PTYFBRNF734&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1389517282&pf_rd_i=507846"]Corsair Vengeance Blue 4GB[/ame] - $35.99

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Supply-RS550-PCARE3-US/dp/B001Q3LWL6/ref=sr_1_10?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1369796936&sr=1-10&keywords=power+supply"]Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 550w[/ame] - $49.99

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Technologies-TEMPEST-210-Midtower/dp/B0066130CM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1369794762&sr=1-1&keywords=NZXT+Tempest+210+CA-TP210-01"]NZXT Technologies TEMPEST 210[/ame] - $47.12

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD-RW-Serial-Internal-DRW-24B1ST/dp/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1369795024&sr=1-2"]Asus 24xDVD-RW[/ame] - $21.95


Total: $524.20

CPU/APU: It is powerful for a pretty much anything you can currently throw at it application wise and because it has a built in discrete AMD 7660D when combined with a AMD GPU you will be able to use crossfire with it and improve your gaming performance/experience.

Mobo: It has all you pretty much need usb 3.0, pci-e 16x, sata 6GB/s for a budget like this and is well liked as a cheap matx board.

GPU: Cause be kicks the 650ti so hard in performance that the 650 forgets what it's supposed to do in a system. Also the 7660D on the APU will give it a nice boost as well.

Ram: Because its ram and you need ram, so there is ram.

PSU: It has all the proper connections and power requirements for the system.

Case: Because it looks nice and has a bit of quality for how cheap it is.

DVD-Drive: Cause he seems to need it? You can always just go to a local computer shop and pick up a cheap one they have in like the parts bin for $8 or just get a USB 3.0 dvd drive. I personally use a USB 3.0 thats in my closet because I hardly ever need one and its just something else to collect dust in yoru case.

Keyboard/Mouse: Let him use what he currently has or extend the budget cause when building a pc you want all your $$ you have to go into parts that are needed and stuff like K/M I consider less important when budget is this tight.

 

[CUB4N]

AMD A10-5800K APU 3.8Ghz - $129.17

ASRock MicroATX Motherboard FM2A75M-DGS - 54.99

Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7850 2 GB - $184.99

Corsair Vengeance Blue 4GB - $35.99

Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 550w - $49.99

NZXT Technologies TEMPEST 210 - $47.12

Asus 24xDVD-RW - $21.95


Total: $524.20

CPU/APU: It is powerful for a pretty much anything you can currently throw at it application wise and because it has a built in discrete AMD 7660D when combined with a AMD GPU you will be able to use crossfire with it and improve your gaming performance/experience.

Mobo: It has all you pretty much need usb 3.0, pci-e 16x, sata 6GB/s for a budget like this and is well liked as a cheap matx board.

GPU: Cause be kicks the 650ti so hard in performance that the 650 forgets what it's supposed to do in a system. Also the 7660D on the APU will give it a nice boost as well.

Ram: Because its ram and you need ram, so there is ram.

PSU: It has all the proper connections and power requirements for the system.

Case: Because it looks nice and has a bit of quality for how cheap it is.

DVD-Drive: Cause he seems to need it? You can always just go to a local computer shop and pick up a cheap one they have in like the parts bin for $8 or just get a USB 3.0 dvd drive. I personally use a USB 3.0 thats in my closet because I hardly ever need one and its just something else to collect dust in yoru case.

good luck fitting that 7850 on a micro atx board.

 

[Cloakedsphere]

good luck fitting that 7850 on a micro atx board.

... I have plenty of room on my M-ATX motherboard for a second 560Ti. Shouldnt be an issue.

 

[maD]

good luck fitting that 7850 on a micro atx board.

He says this because he is bad at cable management, to prove this here is a pic of his actual skills at cable management. So if you route your cables proper like you will have space unlike this guy.

 

[TheYonderGod]

-Does he really need an optical drive? I haven't used one in years. Install windows from a USB flash drive (if you don't have one at least 4gb just buy one instead of the optical drive)
-Does he not have a mouse/keyboard at all? I don't see a point of spending money on crappy mouse/keyboards, use the crappy ones you already have and save up for decent ones
-You don't need to buy extra fans, just get a half decent case that comes with 1 or 2. You can always add more later if you have to.


Here's a build much better than any posted previously, if you can go without buying the optical drive and mouse/keyboard
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($116.33 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($49.60 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($58.24 @ Amazon)
Total: $524.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-29 03:07 EDT-0400)

 

[SUPERJ569]

-Does he really need an optical drive? I haven't used one in years. Install windows from a USB flash drive (if you don't have one at least 4gb just buy one instead of the optical drive)
-Does he not have a mouse/keyboard at all? I don't see a point of spending money on crappy mouse/keyboards, use the crappy ones you already have and save up for decent ones
-You don't need to buy extra fans, just get a half decent case that comes with 1 or 2. You can always add more later if you have to.


Here's a build much better than any posted previously, if you can go without buying the optical drive and mouse/keyboard
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($116.33 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($49.60 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($58.24 @ Amazon)
Total: $524.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-29 03:07 EDT-0400)

I like what you did, but that GPU requires at least 500 watts minimum to run. Having just 500 watts is dangerous. I would go with at least a 750 maybe even a 600+ would be better.

 

[Snipeye]

The difference between the two builds is the CPU. One is the new APU from AMD, the other is a pure CPU.

APU + GPU = Crossfire performance (and reviews I'm reading says this chip can run games at good FPS; combined with a GPU for CR, you can play much more graphic intensive games like Skyrim and such)

To me, the question is: What's a better gaming PC. CPU + GPU or APU + GPU.

 

[TheYonderGod]

I like what you did, but that GPU requires at least 500 watts minimum to run. Having just 500 watts is dangerous. I would go with at least a 750 maybe even a 600+ would be better.

Nope, it would even be fine on a 400w
If you're talking about what it says on the product page, they extremely overestimate because they don't know what CPU you're using and have to compensate for people who buy low quality PSUs.

The difference between the two builds is the CPU. One is the new APU from AMD, the other is a pure CPU.

APU + GPU = Crossfire performance (and reviews I'm reading says this chip can run games at good FPS; combined with a GPU for CR, you can play much more graphic intensive games like Skyrim and such)

To me, the question is: What's a better gaming PC. CPU + GPU or APU + GPU.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure crossfire with APU GPUs only works with a 6450, 6570, or 6670.
Either way, the 7850 is MUCH more powerful than the integrated graphics so you probably wouldn't benefit from it.

 

[maD]

Nope, it would even be fine on a 400w
If you're talking about what it says on the product page, they extremely overestimate because they don't know what CPU you're using and have to compensate for people who buy low quality PSUs.


I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure crossfire with APU GPUs only works with a 6450, 6570, or 6670.
Either way, the 7850 is MUCH more powerful than the integrated graphics so you probably wouldn't benefit from it.

400w psu wouldnt be able to take the load properly and wouldn't be stable and thats if you could even get it to boot with that...

The APU would be beneficial and give a noticeable boost while gaming or in any other 3d application.

 

[TheYonderGod]

400w psu wouldnt be able to take the load properly and wouldn't be stable and thats if you could even get it to boot with that...

The APU would be beneficial and give a noticeable boost while gaming or in any other 3d application.

Sorry but you're wrong.

http://www.techspot.com/review/504-amd-radeon-7870-7850/page12.html
Less than 300w and that's with an i7-3960X
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-review-benchmark,3148-19.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7850_HD_7870/24.html (that one is the GPU only not the entire system, though)
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1863/12/
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_hd_7850_and_7870_review,7.html

Need I say more?


And again, I really doubt the weak on-board GPU would make a difference with a 7850 even if it is able to run in crossfire with it. Yes APU on-board GPUs are powerful compared to Intel and traditional on-board GPUs, but they are still nowhere near a mid range dedicated GPU.

 

[milkdud657]

Thanks for the imput TheYonderGod and maDIEmg, i changed the CPU to a APU, and the motherboard to the ASROCK

 

[maD]

Sorry but you're wrong.

http://www.techspot.com/review/504-amd-radeon-7870-7850/page12.html
Less than 300w and that's with an i7-3960X
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-review-benchmark,3148-19.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7850_HD_7870/24.html (that one is the GPU only not the entire system, though)
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1863/12/
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_hd_7850_and_7870_review,7.html

Need I say more?


And again, I really doubt the weak on-board GPU would make a difference with a 7850 even if it is able to run in crossfire with it. Yes APU on-board GPUs are powerful compared to Intel and traditional on-board GPUs, but they are still nowhere near a mid range dedicated GPU.

...Those are looking at parts individually.

System Type:4 physical CPUs	
Motherboard: High End - Desktop	
CPU Socket: Socket FM2	
CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3800 MHz Trinity	
CPU Utilization (TDP): 80% TDP	
RAM:	 1 Stick DDR3 SDRAM	
Video Card 1: AMD Radeon HD 7850	
IDE HDD 7200 rpm: 1 HDD	
CD-ROM Drive:	1 Drive	
Fans			
Regular: 5 Fans 80mm;  1 Fan 120mm;  1 Fan 140mm;  	
Keyboard and mouse:		Yes	
System Load: 75 %	
 
Minimum PSU Wattage: 416 Watts	
Recommended Wattage: 466 Watts

And that is with the system load at only 75%....when gaming would would shot up to over 500w

 

[TheYonderGod]

...Those are looking at parts individually.

System Type:4 physical CPUs	
Motherboard: High End - Desktop	
CPU Socket: Socket FM2	
CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3800 MHz Trinity	
CPU Utilization (TDP): 80% TDP	
RAM:	 1 Stick DDR3 SDRAM	
Video Card 1: AMD Radeon HD 7850	
IDE HDD 7200 rpm: 1 HDD	
CD-ROM Drive:	1 Drive	
Fans			
Regular: 5 Fans 80mm;  1 Fan 120mm;  1 Fan 140mm;  	
Keyboard and mouse:		Yes	
System Load: 75 %	
 
Minimum PSU Wattage: 416 Watts	
Recommended Wattage: 466 Watts

And that is with the system load at only 75%....when gaming would would shot up to over 500w

Read again; only the 1 I pointed out was looking at the individual 7850.

Source for your quote? Also there is not 4 physical CPUs...