Robbery Changes
- Thread starter RipplyTiger151
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Hi everyone.
So when I respond to bank robbery it 50/50, some want gun fight other want to rp. So when I am robbing the bank I normally plan for a pretty good getaway. I spend maybe a hr or so doing this. One of my rules are not to shoot cops unless I really need to. Some cops would say I do alot of talking after the robbery is complete. I dont run right away since i am doing it for the rp. Cop dont really rp back with me. It a 10 percent chance that I get the right cop to talk to me. It mostly a one sided negotiation. For example we had a hostage at a robbery. So i tell the cop what my demand are and he tell me no this what going to happen. All I wanted to do was leave. Fast foward all the robbery and hostage died. We cant say they just want a shoot out with no rp, when cop come to the scene gun happy So what I am trying to say is both side need help with rp and we cant just blame the civ for lack of rp
So when I respond to bank robbery it 50/50, some want gun fight other want to rp. So when I am robbing the bank I normally plan for a pretty good getaway. I spend maybe a hr or so doing this. One of my rules are not to shoot cops unless I really need to. Some cops would say I do alot of talking after the robbery is complete. I dont run right away since i am doing it for the rp. Cop dont really rp back with me. It a 10 percent chance that I get the right cop to talk to me. It mostly a one sided negotiation. For example we had a hostage at a robbery. So i tell the cop what my demand are and he tell me no this what going to happen. All I wanted to do was leave. Fast foward all the robbery and hostage died. We cant say they just want a shoot out with no rp, when cop come to the scene gun happy So what I am trying to say is both side need help with rp and we cant just blame the civ for lack of rp
Nobody likes doing Hardcore roleplay with the cops because the Cops always Power game the situation and can never let themselves lose unless this escalate to a firefight.
Have a partner and bring a hostage? Cops don't care. They'l gun your partner down first opportunity even if you have a gun to the back of your hostages head. Why should they care about the hostages life when they can just revive them and claim mission accomplished?
There is no situation where the cops will take an L on a robbery situation, So it's always going to escalate to Violence. If you're gonna complain about that then why even have robbery locations in-game at all? Remove them and have fun chasing Speeding Lambos for the rest of your Deputy career.
Have a partner and bring a hostage? Cops don't care. They'l gun your partner down first opportunity even if you have a gun to the back of your hostages head. Why should they care about the hostages life when they can just revive them and claim mission accomplished?
There is no situation where the cops will take an L on a robbery situation, So it's always going to escalate to Violence. If you're gonna complain about that then why even have robbery locations in-game at all? Remove them and have fun chasing Speeding Lambos for the rest of your Deputy career.
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I was thinking this exact thing the other day. I 100% agree with what you and Sammy said.
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Sammy kind of said what I was gonna say already.
It goes both ways. I've been in robberies where cops showed up, said "come out or we come in" and 10 seconds later they just run in guns a blazing. I don't think you can put the blame on the civs when cops are to blame too. It's not exactly "good" RP to show up and then 10 seconds later run in and gun down all the people in the store because you're sick of people robbing stuff.
I've had good robberies before, where the cops actually attempted to RP. I've had a really bad robbery where I was in the middle of talking to one cop and another cop just ran in and told me to put my hands up.
It goes both ways. I've been in robberies where cops showed up, said "come out or we come in" and 10 seconds later they just run in guns a blazing. I don't think you can put the blame on the civs when cops are to blame too. It's not exactly "good" RP to show up and then 10 seconds later run in and gun down all the people in the store because you're sick of people robbing stuff.
I've had good robberies before, where the cops actually attempted to RP. I've had a really bad robbery where I was in the middle of talking to one cop and another cop just ran in and told me to put my hands up.
Well, when 90% of robberies with "hostages" end up with the hostages either having the money or pulling a gun out on us and shooting us, gets kind of old for us Leo's when we do try to negotiate only to have the hostages shoot us or be the actual robber in the long run.
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what robbery are you going to . always detain the hostage and have a gun pointed at them just in case. cop 101
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It's hard to value the hostages life when they're in on it. Oh at a convenience store and you're sitting in front of the door and the robber is in the back unable to shoot you? If you don't run outside you're 100% in on it.
My favorite robbery was at a store forever ago. Only myself and another deputy were available to respond cuz the third enabling the robbery was afk. We rolled up, they had like 3 fully armed dudes inside and they were like "we have outside shooters." I told them to keep the money and we peaced out.
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I do agree with this. Most of the time the hostage is in on it so you can't really do anything without listening to the demands the robber says. Also, about you talking about the robbery, i believe they should limit the robber to cop ratio depending on the amount of cops on. Sometimes it is just 5 cops with 5+ people robbing the bank so it is a loss from the beginning.
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You interview the hostage and see if they their story keep changing. I disagree with the ratio thing. I took down 3 robbery on my own. You not alway going to win every robbery
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Maybe if they weren't obviously in teamspeak/discord with everyone else, still talkin to everyone.
If you're so concerned about that, Make a server rule stating Hostages cannot be in on a robbery attempt, And Cannot be in TS/Discord with their Kidnapper.
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Couldnt you add the one by route 68? (Sandy) Or the 24/7 store by sandy.
