Counter-Strike Global Offensive Jail Server Custom game "Marker Race", should it be banned?

[darkfry]

Hello Everyone,

Today I am asking the question of whether or not the custom game "marker race" should be banned from the Jailbreak server. For those of you who don't know what Marker Race is, it is a custom game where the Warden places down 2 markers, and makes prisoners race from one to the next, usually only killing off the last prisoner, and the markers are usually really close to each other. Now that we know what Marker Race is, I will state my opinion, which is that I believe that this game needs to be banned from the server, and I can come up with several reasons to support my opinion. I also want to know what everyone else thinks, so I created a poll along with this post. Now I will list my reasons why I feel like this game should be banned.

1. Wardens use this game as a loophole to get around having to play a real first game. Those of us who are familiar with the Jailbreak rules know that the first game of any round has to have a recall button, or it needs to be able to be stopped by the warden before over 50% of the prisoners are killing. To get around this rule, wardens play "Marker Race" to count as their first game, usually only killing off 1 prisoner, thus avoiding playing a game with a recall all together. I believe this is straight up loopholing around the rules. Let me know whether or not you agree.

2. It is a waste of time. What is the point of playing a game where you only kill off 1 out of 25 or 30 prisoners, except to get around the rule of having to play a game with a recall first game? I honestly can't think of anything lol.

3. This game supports freekilling. Every time I see this game being played, I notice that the CT's start killing the last person even before all the people ahead of him are in the next marker. They assume that since he is behind everyone else, he is going to be last, so they start killing him early even before everyone else has won. This IS freekilling. You are NOT supposed to kill anyone until the specified number of winners have been achieved.

4. It is not fair. Whenever I see this game played, I see prisoners all trying to get as close to the winning marker as possible before the game starts, sometimes being out of the marker all together, giving them a clear advantage over those who choose to play fair and start the game all the way inside the first marker. The thing that triggers me about this is i don't usually see the warden or CT's taking active measures to try and prevent cheating in this game, thus giving other players an advantage. I didn't even take into account someones fps or ping, which would also have a huge affect on someones performance in this game.

There you have it. Those are my biggest reasons why I feel this custom game needs to be banned from the jail server. While I understand if we couldn't have it outright removed from the game, we should at least make it to where it cannot be played as the first game of the round to prevent loopholing around the rules that don't allow for games without recalls to be played as first game, Thus eliminating the main reason why wardens play this game all together. Whether or not you agree or disagree, please feel free to share your feelings about this custom game, and why you feel like it should stay or why you feel like it has got to go. Thank you!

 

[Rekty]

Yes

 

[Mark]

I don't think just this game should be banned. The warden should HAVE to play a map game before any other to prevent cancer games.

 

[Matt]

I don't think it should be banned, its being seen as more cancer though to play it now, which means people will general only play it when they are being cancer. Also if i does get banned, it should only be banned from first game.

 

[Jacko]

I don't agree that marker race should be banned but I do agree its an issue. The only reason its a thing is because Wardens are not able to play games that are not recallable or can deem the furthest as the first map game. Im currently working with AT's in hoping we can change the recall/stop button rule so this game isnt forced at he start of round.

Its something ive been pretty vocal about for over a year now since that rule was implemented. It's not only marker races but any race. Banning race wouldnt fix the issue, and I dont think race should be banned because played properly its a legit game.

 

[silk_qt]

Its something ive been pretty vocal about for over a year now since that rule was implemented. It's not only marker races but any race. Banning race wouldnt fix the issue, and I dont think race should be banned because played properly its a legit game.

The game itself take literally no skill and promotes rule breaking both for ct's and t's.


A basic marker race should be banned completely. Any race that is on a flat surface between two or more markers is not healthy for the game mode.

Marker race is played on every map, and as players we miss out on potentially fun mini games.

 

[Joker0o]

I don?t personally like the marker race game but I think it should be limited to every couple days or something it has been used on a regular basis in some maps day after day and it promotes staying in the main cell area in some cases (marker race) (primary secondary melee) (odd man out) i mean there?s a couple more games that can be played to keep people in cell area all game. It?s not a terrible game and doesn?t need to go away just needs to be controlled more

 

[Eland]

I don't like playing marker race then play dodge course and have 4 t's alive with 6 minutes left.

I do agree that it should not be banned but not be the first game played.

 

[Rogue Sniper]

Maps have 30+ games on them... lets play terrible games in cell block like trivia, LRFR, Simon says, etc...

Sums up what this game modes become...

 

[Slam Fanderbergler]

Maps have 30+ games on them... lets play terrible games in cell block like trivia, LRFR, Simon says, etc...

Sums up what this game modes become...

Its been like that as long as i can remember tbh. thats part of the jail charm

 

[Dr Maddog]

Sure

 

[Rogue Sniper]

Its been like that as long as i can remember tbh. thats part of the jail charm

We had rules against sitting in cell block past 1 minute after cells opened so... we alleviated that issue pretty well for the most part.

 

[antagonist]

Seeing as how it likely won't get banned, I fully support it being banned as a first game. I just experienced a moment where warden made marker race the first game and everyone was talking over him and knifing the stack so me and a bunch of other ts couldn't hear what he was saying, and then a bunch of us got freekilled because warden didn't properly announce when the race started, it was so stupid too because the markers were within 3 feet of one another. And that's the problem with marker race as the first game, there's too much loud noise going on so the whole experience is just a clustered mess.

 

[Billy]

I remember at one point a year ago or so there was a rule where your "custom race/climb/jump" had to have 2 or more outcomes, or something along those lines so the custom races we have now wouldn't be allowed but I don't remember where that rule went

 

[ApexLock]

Banning marker race would do almost nothing in my opinion. If it were banned, warden could just do cancer jumps as an alternative, and I highly doubt that many players would be in support of banning cancer jumps. When I had suggested that players could just do a cancer jump as an alternative, a few people said they could just ban it first game, but I feel that would change gameplay drastically and I would not see this as a change on our servers.

Cancer jumps and marker races are just games to bypass a rule, and I feel a small change to the rules (such as the requirement for a map game to be first game) could help fix this issue.

Marker races should stay, but wardens and to-be wardens should strive to improve and not do marker races first game.

 

[Muffs]

We had rules against sitting in cell block past 1 minute after cells opened so... we alleviated that issue pretty well for the most part.

"Alright all T's go to soccer field for a cancer day. We're going to play simon says, frlr, and some other crap that we've played 10 rounds in a row."

 

[Rogue Sniper]

"Alright all T's go to soccer field for a cancer day. We're going to play simon says, frlr, and some other crap that we're played 10 rounds in a row."

At least you could rebel by being able to run off while the CTs tried to get the Ts to another area so ?\_(ツ)_/?

 

[Garrett70140]

I could see how it may be considered unfair, if someone has three hundred ping compared to someone who has ten, it should be obvious who will win. I?ve experienced only a few people hearing the warden say their command to bomb-rush to the other marker, if it were up to me I would just advise the warden to do something else, the maps in rotation have plenty to do, why choose this one?

 

[Light Souls]

Well cancer jumps and marker races fall under two different categories imo and that's where I think the problem lies. Marker race imo is NOT skill based (holding w to get to one place to the next isn't skill based, it's a core part of the game to move around lol) cancer jumps on the other hand take skill because not all players can master various cancer jumps and as long as you take 50%+ you're fine. Not only that but marker race causes all sorts of problems, from people cheating by cutting corners, starting to early, and cts more often than not free killing some people in the process. Each map has a lot of various games to offer, why not do those as R Rogue Sniper mentioned, cuz if you're just playing marker race and trivia the whole time, we might as well be playing on dust 2 with some cells in T spawn...

 

[crc1225]

we might as well be playing on dust 2 with some cells in T spawn...

Exactly, the whole thing that makes jail unique is all the different maps and layouts and games in the maps. Why would you want to spend the whole time just sitting in cell block when the maps have so much more to offer.

And to talk about the marker race, how about you improve on it. Right now marker race is mostly just stack in this marker, let me place one 10 yards away and run to it. That's not fun. How about you move the t's into pool and have them race across the pool and up the diving board and back. That's a marker race but it was fun and enjoyable. Being original and not taking the easy solutions is a good way to have fun for you and everyone else on the server.

Just my 2 cents.