(FiveM) Couple suggestions.

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So I spent about 40+ hours on the server in the past couple of days and notices couple things that in my opinion should be looked at again and hopefully modified a bit.

1: The new change on how drugs work is phenomenal, not having the sale point and having to sell to AI brings in a completely new king of mentality into the game world which I like alot. However two things I think that should be looked at are moonshine and money wash.

Moonshine needs 3 MoonshineMash to make 1 moonshine and then 3 moonshine to make 1 WhiteLightning and I believe you can hold only 50 MoonshineMash. 9 MoonshineMash is required to make 1 item that can be sold for 275. So for 1 run (maxing out character inventory, not using trunks) you can sell 5 items (total 1375) On the other hand for 50 weed (max you can hold) (10 blunts) you would get 3,370 (337 per blunt). Adding the fact that moonshine has more steps that has to be done and weed takes up a lot less trunk space (a lot smaller trunk spaces after wipe), seems like there is no point in even thinking about moonshine.

I would suggest increasing the pay for WhiteLightning to around 650 per bottle to make it similar payout to weed (650x5=3250) Keep in mind im talking about only 1 collection run.

2: Second thing that I think should be looked at is the money wash, there is a limit of minimum 1000 and I always seems to be left with around 700-900 useless money that actually adds up over time. I would suggest to remove the limit completely or at least change it to a lot smaller amount like 100 or 200.

3: I have been grinding various jobs for about 30 hours to get the car I wanted (widebody BMW - 350k) and was super excited to customize it and make it my own as I seen couple of them and all of them were blue like the one in car dealership. However I got super disappointed that the customization cost an absolute fortune. Respray costs nearly 4k and there's primary, secondary and Pearlescent, that's 12k on just paint. Window tints are around 4k, Wheels, hood, spoiler, exhaust, each around 16-20k in total around 80-90k on top of the price of the car. lf you get into police chase and run away they will have a description of a car which would match most of the BMWs as the customization is so expensive. Keep in mind this is only 350k car, I imagine the 1mil car customization is even more expensive.

The performance customization are super expensive as well but I do like that aspect of it as once you get the car you wanted, you can continue making it better and better which gives a sense of satisfaction with every performance upgrade.


[EDIT] - [additional suggestions]

After playing for some more time to previous suggestions, I though of couple extra ones.

4: Trunk spaces seem a bit too small. I noticed that some of the items that player would like to have on them are taking up a lot of valuable space in trunks. Because of the houses costing a lot of money, most of the players have to use their trunks as inventory for items that don't want to lose in case of an accident.

I got 20 repair kits and wanted to put them into the trunk of my car, however they take up so much of that weight that I could only put in 10 of them into a 5KG trunk. Even if I put them into a big truck that is used for jobs mainly, they use up a lot of space limiting the potential payout. Another example - I decided to do some illegal work, started collecting weed, filled my 5kg trunk fully and managed to sell everything and got around 16k. I decided to put that dirty money into my trunk (as we can now do so 10/10) in case I got pulled over. However 16k dirty money was too heavy and it did not fit into the trunk so I had to risk driving with it all the way back to the city.

Pickup trucks currently have trunk space of 20KG, which for a pickup truck seems very small as well, I would prefer to do any job into a pickup truck which handles better and has better brakes than an all out rig, however not much is fitting into that space. Also we spend a lot of time doing different jobs, legal or illegal to be able to buy those awesome add on cars, yet still having to use very big, heavy, default gta vehicles with no brakes to make the jobs profitable kinda takes away from the excitement of wanting to get on and play around. And it also kind of defeats the purpose of buying other cars. Id like to see the trunk sizes increased to make the gameplay more enjoyable.

5: This one may not relate to everyone. I really enjoy this server and its community is one of the best I have stumbled upon, hence why I stuck around and i'm currently not playing on other FiveM RP servers as I want to be a dedicated player to EGO, making the server more welcoming for new players from different countries other than US who have time to be on while most of the usual players are at school, work or sleeping. Having a player base from around the world in my opinion will be very beneficial to the EGO organisation as that would mean having the server (or even 2) populated hopefully 24/7.

My issue regarding that is that there is not much to do when there is no police on. Most if not all of the more interesting options are locked being the no police lock. Meaning that people who are on the server at any other time dont have much to do. The illegal aspect of the server pays a lot more than the legal counterparts and are also the main push for players to have RP scenarios either for being in a group of players having fun being a cartel, or people interacting with police in various ways. Legal money does not pay well and it is very tedious as there is no risks, no excitement. For people outside of the "normal full server hours" progression in this game world is very slow due to the above and in my opinion not very welcoming.

I believe the management doesn't want to eliminate the police lock, I would suggest to increase the payout from legal jobs when there is no police on so players who have time to play in the off-peak times have a chance to have the vehicles/homes they like for that 1 hour of game time they can have during the peak times (usually 10PM UK time)


[EDIT -2] - [ADDITIONAL IDEAS]

Like before, during playing on the server, talking to other people I came up with 2 more suggestions that should impact the community positively.

Since there has been a wipe and prices have been bumped way up on everything with change how drugs work, there are some factors that are limiting the freedom of players on the server. The introduction of 1 Drug per month in my opinion is a good and a bad thing. Good as it brings variety to the server each month, keeping it fresh. However im afraid that once players will figure out the best paying tasks on the server and find the locations, there will be always a lot of people on that one drug location, with only couple of players using turtles or moonshine.

With the increased prices on everything and the fact that the illegal tasks are so far away from the city, currently, there is a small risk being caught, not mentioning that the payout from even weed is not overwhelming. I though of 2 ways to spice the life in EGO servers a bit.

6: Bank robberies - It was not worth going for bank robberies at all before the wipe as they were paying out 20k and that's if you managed to pull it off. I would suggest to increase the payout to 300k-500k. Yes that's a lot but hear me out. Yesterday there was 21 players on and 15!!! of them were PD. That's nearly 1:4 civ to PD ratio. Would be hard to rob anything. Additionally, no one will be able to pull off a bank robbery on their own, so at least 3-5 people would have to be doing it as a group. With the fact that there is a lot of PD force on the server during peak hours, it would make it super difficult to pull off such a robbery. However if some players do manage to do so, I believe they do deserve the 500k payout, split evenly across everyone. Of course the police lock could be included to it with for example, minimum of 3 cops needed to be able to do this task.

7: Due to the fact that the map is quite big and most of the illegal tasks are located outside of the city. I had an idea to add additional illegal task which will be always on, like moonshine. However each location will be within the city limit as this would make this task involve a lot more risk as you would have to be in the city at all times and because of this it would pay out more than 3370 per 1 run(weed currently) and that could be like 6k-8k per 1 run. Big risk, big reward. Of course, like above the police lock could be included to it with for example minimum of 3 cops needed to be able to do this task.

This would give more options to players and make the entire game world a lot more interesting and exciting. With the amount of PD officers on and prices being so high, I believe that having those 2 big risk, big reward options will add additional value and interest to the EGO server, and the community will appreciate it a lot.


Sorry for so many paragraphs and please keep in mind that I'm not hating or complaining. I do really enjoy the server and community (hence why I spend so much time on it) and I just want to make it as enjoyable as possible, but still keep a challenge to it. The above is just my opinion and not everyone will agree with them.

Any feedback is appreciated, and I encourage to comment your thoughts below.

Thank you for allocating time to read through my 5 cents.
 
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OK heres my opinion on these suggestions.


1. i haven't really done any moonshine, but from what you're saying it seems a bit too complicated especially considering it makes less than weed.
Assuming that it takes longer time than weed due to the multiple steps i agree that it should be buffed, or rebalanced so it matches the same payout as weed. +1

2. For the money laundering system suggestion i completely agree, kind of sucks having to throw away 900 dirty money just cause i dont have enough to launder it. 100 would be the best amount IMO.

3. i believe its all based on the car prices, as you said. So for the most expensive car in the game which i believe is 2 million then just paint would cost you a ton of money, the engine prices should be expensive as they're upgraded engines which makes sense, but the customization options shouldnt be that expensive / should have a cap at how much it can be, so it wont be 40k for a new spoiler on an expensive car

4. +1 i dont see why the storage space in trunks were nerfed so much that its unrealistic anyway.

5. #Reletable +1
Usually when i am on, theres only a couple other people on (not counting weekends) Meaning theres usually no cops on. Basically the only times i am able to do illegal activities are in the weekends, which kind of sucks. This heavily effects the ability to do illegal activities, and prepare for illegal activities (ex farm drugs to buy weapons for a big heist later in the weekend)
 
Ok so i guess you made even more.

6.
i think the amount you receive from the big bank robberies should be depending on how many cops are on, 200-500k is a bit much anyway.
with the money being harder to get, guns and ammo being a LOT more expensive i agree that this should be buffed by a lot.

Store robberies dont need a buff as they're, well store robberies. the current amount is alright. The high tier Bank robberies should be increased by 10k per officer, or something like that.
Meaning if theres 3 cops it'll only be 30k but if theres an insane amount of cops like 15 there would be 150k (Amount per cop could be changed ofcourse)

7. +1, more risk and bigger rewards seems cool, i dont really have much to say about this currently and im rly tired
 
I got 20 repair kits and wanted to put them into the trunk of my car, however they take up so much of that weight that I could only put in 10 of them into a 5KG trunk. Even if I put them into a big truck that is used for jobs mainly, they use up a lot of space limiting the potential payout. Another example - I decided to do some illegal work, started collecting weed, filled my 5kg trunk fully and managed to sell everything and got around 16k. I decided to put that dirty money into my trunk (as we can now do so 10/10) in case I got pulled over. However 16k dirty money was too heavy and it did not fit into the trunk so I had to risk driving with it all the way back to the city.

5kg trunk, you in a sports car man? I mean buy a bigger car man like a industrial car Benson/Phantom... those hold like 90kg. Sports cars only hold so much. What you gonna do with all that junk in that trunk man. Intentionally trying to get people to use big rigs for big jobs.

-we will see what we can do with the rest of the suggestions. thanks for being detailed.
-Summer
 
I fully understand that Summer, however I prefer not to use something like a benson or phantom to do illegal jobs as it takes a long time to fill them with the stuff and they are way to slow to have a chance of running away, unless I kill the police officers. I prefer not to kill anyone. So I was doing my stuff in a faster car where I have a chance to actually run away. I even spoke to one of PD officers who said that the crown vic is insanely quick at acceleration and its unrealistic. Keeping that in mind, it makes me not want to use the big rigs even more. And the fact that a lot of the times most of players on the server are PD further discourages me to use those vehicles.

A lot of players get annoyed at people who kill PD in their RP, calling it "trash RP", however when most players are PD with super fast cars and we have to use big slow rigs with no maneuverability, there's not much other options and the game becomes anything but fun and enjoyable.
 
I fully understand that Summer, however I prefer not to use something like a benson or phantom to do illegal jobs as it takes a long time to fill them with the stuff and they are way to slow to have a chance of running away, unless I kill the police officers. I prefer not to kill anyone. So I was doing my stuff in a faster car where I have a chance to actually run away. I even spoke to one of PD officers who said that the crown vic is insanely quick at acceleration and its unrealistic. Keeping that in mind, it makes me not want to use the big rigs even more. And the fact that a lot of the times most of players on the server are PD further discourages me to use those vehicles.

A lot of players get annoyed at people who kill PD in their RP, calling it "trash RP", however when most players are PD with super fast cars and we have to use big slow rigs with no maneuverability, there's not much other options and the game becomes anything but fun and enjoyable.

My response to that is: drive correct. If you drive correct, the cops won't have a reason to stop you or speak to you.
 
My response to that is: drive correct. If you drive correct, the cops won't have a reason to stop you or speak to you.

There's other ways to gain a reason. I'll pull people all the time if their vehicle is unregistered so I can verify ownership. Roleplaying my ALPR
 
Updates? We looked at it. Not all suggestions are implemented.
 
Like I said in General on Discord, Its nice to see that 3 and 4 Have been actually acted on. So massive thank you from myself. Is there any possibility at implementing/making 6 and 7 a reality at all or that's a definite NO for those two ?
 
Updates? We looked at it. Not all suggestions are implemented.

Communication is key.
It would be a great improvement if we got some updates regarding suggestions. It would improve the communication with the community and management by a ton.
Possibly maybe get a trello page set up as a server roadmap so We can know what to expect in the future? :)
Sorry if something here sounds off, it’s 2am and I’m going to bed so goodnight
 
I think my replies are played out. These requests had some merit such as the cleaning station. But if it’s just “more money” or “faster car options so I don’t have to drive the truck” it defeats the purpose of RP. The mechs roll deep as a group and we’ll do lumber or oil. Everyone in a semi and that is actually half the fun. Make a convoy!

Honestly dude, don’t grind for the nicest things out there, cause then it’ll be “it’s boring, there’s nothing to do reset reset” lol. I run moonshine purely for RP. I run it in an old muscle car and if my character ever ran that would be the time. I’d take the dirt roads in true nascar style.
 
Communication is key.
It would be a great improvement if we got some updates regarding suggestions. It would improve the communication with the community and management by a ton.
Possibly maybe get a trello page set up as a server roadmap so We can know what to expect in the future? :)
Sorry if something here sounds off, it’s 2am and I’m going to bed so goodnight

Any suggestions that are implemented usually get said in the Server Change Log. Keep an eye on it.
 
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