Complete Disappointment

Legend

Councilman Polamalu
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Taylor made a post with an anonymous feedback form to provide your constructive thoughts on the server. This was one of the replies.

"You guys act like retards (leadership) who decide to bend the rules one day and enforce them the next."​

I'm pretty disgusted that a member of the community thinks its appropriate to handle themselves like this. Anonymous or not, this is not what eGO is about. If this was you, you're probably better off playing somewhere else anyways.
 
It may be unprofessional & the improper way to handle the issue at hand but he isn't wrong. This is a strong feeling by many on this server I won't get into detail here but I strongly suggest there should be a formal way to have dialog with leadership. Certain members of leadership can't even have a discussion without yelling & getting upset when the opposite party voices a concern in a mature way. Even this post for example is designed to call that person out & shame him which in itself is immature. It starts from the top and until we bridge the gap things like this will continue and the server will struggle. We need to have a adult discussion in the ts to brainstorm ideas on how to make eGO grow as a whole or something of that nature.
 
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It may be unprofessional & the improper way to handle the issue at hand but he isn't wrong. This is a strong feeling by many on this server I won't get into detail here but I strongly suggest there should be a formal way to have dialog with leadership. Certain members of leadership can't even have a discussion without yelling & getting upset when the opposite party voices a concern in a mature way. Even this post for example is designed to call that person out & shame him which in itself is immature.

Whether or not the individual is correct is negated by the manner in which they chose to convey their concerns. Every leadership in EGO, with the exception of Artimus, reports to someone, including myself and Legend. Bark up the chain of command if you have an issue with a member of leadership. It's hard to correct any issues if the issues go unreported and it's hard for us as leaders to know every little thing that goes on.

Concerns with a manager are reported to the senior managers.
Concerns with a senior manager are reported to the community manager.
Concerns with a community manager are reported to myself and USCG Hammer.
Concerns with myself or GardenGroveVW are reported to Legend, the CEO.
Concerns with the CEO can go directly to Artimus, although I really doubt that'll ever happen.
 
have a adult discussion

I’m having a tough time grasping we can talk about people calling others retards and having professional discussions in the same paragraph. My point of this is it’s a disgrace to this community if you address yourself in that manner and I as CEO am extremely disappointed by it. I’m reminding people this is a mature community. That is far from mature regardless of the disputes or complaints at hand.
 
Grasping what, I never called anyone a retard? I even agreed he took the wrong approach but that doesn't change the fact the issues still exists. There are plenty of adults in this community that can express their concerns in a mature way those are the people we need to get in a room or appoint to something similar to a "think tank" to help bring this server back. But when members of leadership not all might I add of "how dare you question me" as opposed to hearing their ideas we all lose.
 
Grasping what, I never called anyone a retard? I even agreed he took the wrong approach but that doesn't change the fact the issues still exists. There are plenty of adults in this community that can express their concerns in a mature way those are the people we need to get in a room or appoint to something similar to a "think tank" to help bring this server back. But when members of leadership not all might I add of "how dare you question me" as opposed to hearing their ideas we all lose.

I think you completely missed the concept of this thread.

If you think it's okay to call people retards rather than provide constructive criticism you're not welcome in a punk-free community. Voice your opinions in a respectful and mature manner.

^ That's the point.
 
This thread could've been a good example in General Chatter. Just saying.
 
No I get it which is why I said MULTIPLE times he shouldn't have taken that approach. But it seems everyone besides adam is missing the points I've brought up. I've brought up opinions in mature & respectful ways multiple times only to have people spit in my face and try to convey their points with angry swearing fits of rage. I'll drop this but please think about what I've also brought up & lets turn this server around on all levels we can do it with a little more work by all parties.
 
I understand feeling frustrated and thinking that nothing is getting done, but getting potty mouthed and just throwing a tantrum like that isn't the way to go. Our Leadership aren't perfect, they're humans. I don't agree with everything they do, they've done things that I thought were wrong too.

But at the end of the day this isn't their job, they're doing this because they love Edge and I'm willing to bet they want to see the community grow too out of love for it. I've sat down with leadership and talked to them before and 9/10 times they're understanding and willing to answer my questions and see things my way. The only way you'll ever get your point across is being calm and rational, and this ain't it.

tl;dr leadership are human and can **** up, and most likely haven't done anything maliciously. Go up the chain of command if you have a legit problem with someone, and don't be a dumbass.
 
Taylor made a post with an anonymous feedback form to provide your constructive thoughts on the server. This was one of the replies.

"You guys act like retards (leadership) who decide to bend the rules one day and enforce them the next."​

I'm pretty disgusted that a member of the community thinks its appropriate to handle themselves like this. Anonymous or not, this is not what eGO is about. If this was you, you're probably better off playing somewhere else anyways.


I will preface this by saying I loved eGO, wore the CSS T-Shirt proudly IRL. I've been actively-inactive in eGO for the past few years. (Former OP:X leadership here) I've followed the GTA forums since the server launched (or at least soon after) but due to having a toaster of a PC up until recently I haven't been playing with the community as much.

Recently got a new box that ran games like GTA:V, I was excited to become active in eGO again.

I get online, I start playing, I make a character, and about 2 hours into it, I'm going to jail with NO control of my character. (real RP right there) all over me speeding (in a video game) and mouthing off to the cop - now this happened a while back and was before the server reset BUT that doesn't mean things have changed. Another time, recently, I had a cop (eGO rank) shoot at me because I wasn't registered in CAD, at the time I didn't even know what that was. There are kids that run around the server killing everyone, FiveM hackers spawning planes on people, and UI bugs left and right (mods amirite). Just the other day a leadership member was getting fired up over the fact I was speeding down the highway, I tried Roleplaying my case, but as soon as I realized he was a leadership member and actually upset over it, I made the more mature move by letting him have his way and not causing a scene - because had I continued it would have ended with me being removed from eGO as opposed to a RolePlaying Event.

MEANWHILE, there is OOC chat from Leadership/Devs about how they get to fly in jets and have all theses fancy cars - but only for whitelisted folk. While I'm stuck doing the same boring jobs looking for something to go on for 5 minutes and then have every cop in the server join us, 90% of the time ending with someone yelling or "trying to just fix the problem."

For someone to say that "leadership bends the rules and enforces them the next" would be an UNDERSTATEMENT Sure not ALL of leadership beaks the rules, but to say that none of them would be arrogant.

Obviously someone was upset when they insulted leadership's intellectual state, but they bring up a good point. A better choice of words would get it across better.

People just wanna have a good-time - if people can't find it here, they WILL go elsewhere. Some of us just care about the history of eGO in the hopes that the old community members will come back. Open the server browser, do a Google search, look at Twitch, there are hundreds of servers - many of which have OC mods - we choose to play here.

I find it disgusting that eGO Leadership would push people of the community away when they voice their concerns. They used to take that stuff seriously, not mock it in a public forum.

Unfortunately, unless you have eGO tags on, are a cop/ems/mechanic, FiveM really isn't that fun here, and its not because the jobs are boring, jail, the hospital, and the respawn screen are.

Hope I helped voice our anonymous' member's concern's a little more "maturely" than they did.

With Respect,
Shiv.
 
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People just wanna have a good-time - if people can't find it here, they WILL go elsewhere. Some of us just care about the history of eGO in the hopes that the old community members will come back. Open the server browser, do a Google search, look at Twitch, there are hundreds of servers - many of which is OC mods - we choose to play here.

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It's totally fair to have criticism of Leadership. Calling any member of the community retarded though doesn't solve anything which is what Legend is trying to say. If whoever posted that had just wrote "Leadership doesn't follow the rules themselves", this post would have never been made.
 
It's totally fair to have criticism of Leadership. Calling any member of the community retarded though doesn't solve anything which is what Legend is trying to say. If whoever posted that had just wrote "Leadership doesn't follow the rules themselves", this post [SUP][SUP]would [/SUP][/SUP]should have never been made.

The situation as a whole is unbecoming and unwelcoming.
 
I?m having a tough time grasping we can talk about people calling others retards and having professional discussions in the same paragraph. My point of this is it?s a disgrace to this community if you address yourself in that manner and I as CEO am extremely disappointed by it. I?m reminding people this is a mature community. That is far from mature regardless of the disputes or complaints at hand.

Yo i think you misread TDK's post dawg
 
Not be rude but uh whats the point of this thread? Like i mean it in a nice way but why not just ignore him yall finna have people live for free in yo heads like this?
 
Shiv, that seems like a well thought out and written post. Though it was blanketed. If a cop held you at gun point for not being on CAD (unless it was some sort of a RP) you gotta report it. If leadership is doing things you feel is not right or unfair you gotta bring it to us. As former leadership yourself you know not everything is in your control. But we’lol need info/names to go from

I do appreciate your feedback,
 
Hey there everybody.. I'm DaddyDubbs, Along time member of the Edge-Gamers FiveM GTAV Administrative team. From someone who really has a big heart and soft spot for this game, and the people that make it great. I see sometimes people's suggestions go completely unnoticed and brushed under the rug. Which also falls on me because i feel personally i could do better of helping people when they have suggestions or need someone to talk to about a certain situation. Moving on. The statement of "Certain members of leadership can't even have a discussion without yelling & getting upset when the opposite party voices.." is something I've personally seen but not reported, due to the fact of myself not wanting to fall victim of the rage of the person getting upset as well.. So with that i just "Stayed in my lane" and carried on about what i was doing.. Seeing this is something that really turns off people of the community ESPECIALLY if they are a new member or planning to become a member. Lately in the game has been a huge example of this as well.. In the case of countless "newer" players getting banned for the smaller of things because they didn't know or flat out didn't care.. I have taken it apon myself to try and make more of an impact on the newer players by going at and personally introducing myself to them and trying to give them the warmest welcome i possibly can. For example, CrackBailey. He was a major issue within the server, He would run around and cause a sheer chaos amoungst the server. I took the time out of my day to go and talk to him 1 on 1 and tell him what he has been doing, and why its not cool.. With this he has become one of the better RP'ers within the server and i love running into him in game. All because i took the time to stop and think, Maybe this man doesn't know much about RP, Maybe he is new to all this, and what can i do to make a positive impact on him that will get him to stay here and make eGO his permanent home for FiveM.. CrackBailey has now invited numerous friends to join our server and has become quite a great person ingame with helping other new people the way i helped him.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what someone has said. It matters on how the person's actions effect the way the other sees the quality of life in the service we are providing them.. I was taught very well on this by all of the senior management (Don, Adam, Legend, Tram, Summer, Ripply, and Envious). This place is my home and hopefully with my rambling it helps make atleast one person think.. What can i do to make this the best FiveM server on the list, one where we need Five servers just to contain how many people are flooding in here? Quality of service..

-DaddyDubbs
 
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