CS JB - Deathcrate as a first game

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Im suggesting that deathcrate should no longer be playable as a first game. My reason for this suggestion is that deathcrate is very much a luck based game and its very hard to not overkill with it. The overkills with deathcrate happens very often and sometimes it's so extreme that it will go to LR, and it's sometimes results in an immediate round end. I feel that breakfloor has the same problems as deathcrate but because of its slower nature it tends to overkill less.
 
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I see where you are coming from, but colors can also result in drastic overkill as well. Same with Breakfloor, Dodge Course, really, any first game except climb and surf is luck based as well.
 
I see where you are coming from, but colors can also result in drastic overkill as well. Same with Breakfloor, Dodge Course, really, any first game except climb and surf is luck based as well.

All the games you listed here are skill based with the exception of breakfloor.
 
Although deathcrate and breakfloor have some luck elements, they still give all the t's a fair chance to win.
 
zach zach color tower and four corners also give all ts an equal chance to live but we can't play those first game.
 
All the games you listed here are skill based with the exception of breakfloor.

Okay, but they have drastic overkill as well. Climb and Surf are some of the only games without that overkill factor. Which, if we're going to call out DeathCrate as bad, then DeathRun also on the chopping block as well. The only difference is no major overkill is associated with it. You can't predict when the CT's are going to press the buttons, so why not remove that as well?
 
kuantum kuantum You are 100% right about deathrun and I think it should also not be playable as a first game, but the problem with deathcrate and deathrun is they are luck based games that are allowed first. While you are right about those games also causing mass overkill it's because of people not being able to play the game fast enough or well enough, which in the end is their fault.
 
i think that those games have the little skill involved, some more than others, but games like roulette and couch game are more of a gamble and are pure luck.
 
zach zach color tower and four corners also give all ts an equal chance to live but we can't play those first game.
Yes, those are luck based games because there is 0 skill in winning, once the game has started there is nothing that you could do besides hope for the best (Except color tower, you can use team work). However, with deathcrate and breakfloor you need skill to win once the game starts.
 
zach zach the "Skill" there is literally something a fish could do, it's running away from a crate or staying where there are more blocks. It's extraordinarily minimal skill.
 
Making rules to prevent people from being toxic wont make toxic people not toxic.
 
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At the moment I see no reason for deathcrate to be disallowed as a first game. This has been suggest a few times but:

As Mr. thorgot shows:
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Also:
https://www.edge-gamers.com/forums/...Deathcrate-is-luck-based&highlight=deathcrate
https://www.edge-gamers.com/forums/...create-Is-it-skill-based&highlight=deathcrate
 
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