New Hardware Budget Gaming Rig (if even possible)

MacArther

MacArther

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So, I currently run all of my games on a Dell Inspiron Laptop with a built in card as well as a built in Nvidia GeForce GT 630M and all the stock internals (including the 1TB HD), with the addition of a Turtle Beach Headset and a Corsair Katar mouse.

I'm working with approximately $550-$600 USD. I'm hoping to find a tower that maybe (emphasis) I could work with in the future when more funds are available.

If possible, I'd like to run something like BF1, because trying to load it up on my laptop on any server with large areas or more than 24 players turns the game into stop motion animation.

If the BF1 stress would be too much, then at least BF4 without locking up for a bit when loading into a match (which my laptop does).

A note: I was AAA certified waaaayyyy back when Windows Vista first came out, so you might have to keep some explanations simple (sorry).

Thanks for any help and input!

Edit: I forgot to mention that I have a monitor and keyboard to use for the PC, so no worries on that front.
 
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Here you go.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($143.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Team GX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 570 8 GB GT OC Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Case Fan: ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan ($8.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $599.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-10 22:45 EDT-0400
 
Ignore 1st list. Here is one with a better/more updated power supply.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($143.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Team GX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 570 8 GB GT OC Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 550 W ATX Power Supply ($63.88 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan ($8.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $563.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-10 23:04 EDT-0400
 
CrossCheck said:
Ignore 1st list. Here is one with a better/more updated power supply.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($143.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Team GX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 570 8 GB GT OC Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 550 W ATX Power Supply ($63.88 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan ($8.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $563.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-10 23:04 EDT-0400
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For the price, this is a pretty nice build!
 
CrossCheck said:
Ignore 1st list. Here is one with a better/more updated power supply.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($143.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Team GX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 570 8 GB GT OC Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 550 W ATX Power Supply ($63.88 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan ($8.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $563.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-10 23:04 EDT-0400
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Where is the ram?
 
CrossCheck's build isn't bad, but if you're looking for future upgrade-ability, this list would be more cost effective.

Basically, I went AMD over Intel because 1) they hold the market right now, 2) the CPUs are more worth the money, and 3) this motherboard is decently cheap and still usable if you upgrade the CPU later down the line.

And then I went Nvidia over AMD purely based on user experience. Nvidia is just the better choice overall and has better support for games and game engines if you're looking to get any other games after the fact.


PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yHc7q3

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU750 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar MX330-G ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CV 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $592.94

Hope this was useful for all you gamers out there and not just MacArther
 
You can't run a 3rd gen Ryzen on the B450 chipset. The only chipset that can run the Ryzen 3 is a x570 at the moment. The B550 chipset isn't out yet.

peloc said:
CrossCheck's build isn't bad, but if you're looking for future upgrade-ability, this list would be more cost effective.

Basically, I went AMD over Intel because 1) they hold the market right now, 2) the CPUs are more worth the money, and 3) this motherboard is decently cheap and still usable if you upgrade the CPU later down the line.

And then I went Nvidia over AMD purely based on user experience. Nvidia is just the better choice overall and has better support for games and game engines if you're looking to get any other games after the fact.


PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yHc7q3

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU750 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar MX330-G ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CV 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $592.94

Hope this was useful for all you gamers out there and not just MacArther
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CrossCheck said:
You can't run a 3rd gen Ryzen on the B450 chipset. The only chipset that can run the Ryzen 3 is a x570 at the moment. The B550 chipset isn't out yet.
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Since when? My friend runs a R5 3600 on a B350 board.
 
CrossCheck said:
You can't run a 3rd gen Ryzen on the B450 chipset. The only chipset that can run the Ryzen 3 is a x570 at the moment. The B550 chipset isn't out yet.
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Yeah.. as long as you run the bios update you'll be fine. You'll lose PCI-E 4 support (stuck with 3), but it'll work just fine. And for a build like this, the the major advantages brought into GEN 4 wont be taken advantage of.
 
WOAH! These setups are billions of times better (pricing and performance) than the pre-builds I was looking at (but hoping not to need).

Dumb question: I won't need to overclock any of this right? As mentioned in the original post, I last had a AAA Cert. class back when Vista was brand new (there was an add-on little booklet for Vista that came with the normal Course book) and over-clocking was not part of the class. Plus, my family (me included) kind of have Murphy's Law in our blood...so an overclock would somehow explode the cpu, light on fire, etc.
 
MacArther said:
WOAH! These setups are billions of times better (pricing and performance) than the pre-builds I was looking at (but hoping not to need).

Dumb question: I won't need to overclock any of this right? As mentioned in the original post, I last had a AAA Cert. class back when Vista was brand new (there was an add-on little booklet for Vista that came with the normal Course book) and over-clocking was not part of the class. Plus, my family (me included) kind of have Murphy's Law in our blood...so an overclock would somehow explode the cpu, light on fire, etc.
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You're able to run the pc at its stock performance, it will run great!

But if you overclock it you'd be able to get 5% or more performance out of your pc. But it would also get louder and warmer.

Also. You cannot overclock the intel i3 9100f since it is a locked processor. (Not all intel processors are locked, but they are. Expensive) the ryzen processor is able to be overclocked.
 
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peloc said:
Since when? My friend runs a R5 3600 on a B350 board.
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I think he means Zen 3. AMD said that even though they botched the b550 release date only the x570 boards can support zen3 and with zen4 DDR5 will be out, meaning that right now its a dead zone for b450s and below.

Without a doubt AMD could make b450s support zen3 with a bios update but they won't do that.
 
DeerFat said:
You're able to run the pc at its stock performance, it will run great!

But if you overclock it you'd be able to get 5% or more performance out of your pc. But it would also get louder and warmer.

Also. You cannot overclock the intel i3 9100f since it is a locked processor. (Not all intel processors are locked, but they are. Expensive) the ryzen processor is able to be overclocked.
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I would not recommending overclocking manually to any newer builder especially on a stock cooler.
Stick with Ryzen's precision overdrive
 
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/34gsf9


Tossed this together in a few minutes, doesn't require a discrete gpu as the 3400G is an APU (CPU/GPU combo) with Radeon Vega 11

Ryzen 5 3400G
AsRock B450M-HDV R4.0
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 16GB
HP EX900 120 NVME SSD - OS Drive
Seagate Barracuda 2TB - Storage Drive
EVGA BR 600W 80+ Bronze
Cooler Master MasterBox Midtower
 
Milwaukee said:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/34gsf9


Tossed this together in a few minutes, doesn't require a discrete gpu as the 3400G is an APU (CPU/GPU combo) with Radeon Vega 11

Ryzen 5 3400G
AsRock B450M-HDV R4.0
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 16GB
HP EX900 120 NVME SSD - OS Drive
Seagate Barracuda 2TB - Storage Drive
EVGA BR 600W 80+ Bronze
Cooler Master MasterBox Midtower
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The RAM could go down $10 for a pack of G. SKILL. For a budget like this a normal SATA SSD is still pretty fast and those go for $15-20. With the $30 saved I would then wait for the 3300x for $120 and fit in a used 1650
 
With the holiday season and deals right around the corner, I thought I'd revisit this thread and ask if there are any ammendments / overall agreed upon builds?

Also, found out that my old copy of Windows 7 on disk is broken (like, physically somehow the disk got cracked, inside the heavy plastic case), so I guess I'm sinking money into the non-subscription Windows 10 along with the build.
 
Windows will only run you a couple dollars, the OEM keys on ebay will work fine
 
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