GTA V Server Ideas

[I am Snoops]

I just want to start by saying thank you for all the changes that have been made recently, really changing the server in a better direction.

Some suggestions I have that could possibly further this are the following. I believe that there should be more for criminals to do so that both cops and criminals have new things to do rather than just bank robberies. A few ideas that I have would be rob able gas stations, possibly being able to fake an identity, prison transport busses would be cool as well so that someone’s buddies have a chance of breaking them out of jail etc. With this I feel that cops should investigate more and attempt to catch criminals more often so they never really feel safe.

Other implementations I believe would be beneficial is a stress system where if there are gunshots near you or something like that you would be forced to use a form of drug such as weed, alcohol, cigarettes etc. This would be a small change but would be cool. Another thing I would love to see added is a system where you can rob people when they are dead this way people value their life more and robbing is more common. This would cause people to worry about carrying thousands of cash on them as they risk losing it.

The last thing I would recommend is an increase the sale of bandages by lowering the price and removing /skin so people don’t use it as a way to gain health, I see this all the time. Thank you for your time, would love to see these implemented.

 

[EchoFX]

Half of this stuff has been implemented in the server in the past and leadership must've felt like it wasn't beneficial to the server and has been thrown out. I'm not entirely sure but I know for a fact, you used to be able to rob dead bodies but apparently it was frowned upon (for some reason).

I do agree that a lot of these gameplay effects would be a lot more realistic though.

A solid +1 from me.

 

[Jolly]

Other implementations I believe would be beneficial is a stress system where if there are gunshots near you or something like that you would be forced to use a form of drug such as weed, alcohol, cigarettes etc. This would be a small change but would be cool.

Our police force would be breathing in more cigarette smoke than actual breathing air. Criminals would have to hold the cops cig while they were being arrested.

 

[Marcoboy24]

You can rob dead bodies and living people EchoFX I am Snoops . Most of the points you mentioned are actually limited because of the lack of Police that we have, they cant add new things if Police cant respond.
Bandages would be a good thing, and they definitly shouldnt be expensive.
I disagree with the stress, i dont thing it makes sense. People train IRL to be able to keep a good mental in a firefight, they dont smoke or do drugs so they stay calm.

 

[iLLusion99]

Some of these are really good ideas. There is already a robbing system in place. On the topic about stress its a no from me. I like the idea of rob-able stores so its not always a big planned robbery. A fake id idea would be cool but im almost certain it'll end up being abused. I love the idea of the cops investigating crimes but I believe theyre already working on this as ive certain cops doing this so to them, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. Bandages would be a cool idea but idk about removing /skin as thats the only way to change hair, beard etc.

 

[EchoFX]

Since when can you rob dead bodies?... Also, how in the heck do you believe we have a lack of police? It honestly feels like 1/3 or more of the server are police officers and they have power beyond comprehension. Can't even take them hostage or steal their vehicles without Leadership approval (Which I'm sorry, but that's absolutely bogus)

 

[I am Snoops]

iLLusion99 When I say remove /skin I think you should only be able to do it a certain place via a circle not just anywhere, you should be able to in a clothing store or make like barber shops where you can change your hair, beard, etc.

 

[Chicken Noodle Soup]

Please dont bring back gas station robberies.

Stress meter would be badass though

 

[Ric]

Interesting.

 

[b t]

Love this

 

[Legend]

I like the concept of prison transports as long as we have the police numbers to do it.

 

[Legend]

Since when can you rob dead bodies?... Also, how in the heck do you believe we have a lack of police? It honestly feels like 1/3 or more of the server are police officers and they have power beyond comprehension. Can't even take them hostage or steal their vehicles without Leadership approval (Which I'm sorry, but that's absolutely bogus)

You can’t rob or kidnap police for these reasons...

-Some players lack creativity and think that it’s acceptable every 3 seconds to hold up police. But the reality of that happening is minimal. If the playerbase posed more of a creative and ROLEPLAY mindset I would think this may be opened up. I’m in favor of allowing cop robberies within reason and those who abuse it get talked to by Leadership.

-Kidnapping a cop takes the entire servers resources from EMS and Police for this single scene that typically takes 30-45 minutes if not longer. It’s a selfish approach that takes roleplay away from the rest of the server.

 

[Meyers]

Yikes normally there's like 5-7 cops, don't know where you got 1/3 from

 

[OmgWtfNamesTaken]

These are some of the suggestions I put forward at the meeting we had last time, figured I would write them out a bit more detailed with some explanations as to why I said what I said.

lower the speed of all vehicles and give Vapid cars some sort of custom handling to put them on par with the imported cars. This will change the current vehicle meta and allow people to actually utilize stolen cars for things along with breaking up seeing the same cars all the time because they are the only ones worth using (essentially breaking up the fast car is the best getaway car meta) Along with being more friendly for newer players. I would also like PD vehicles to be looked at and reduce the health pools a bit to make it a driving skills competition instead of someone in a car made of paper vs a car made of tungsten. Rarely have I been to a call as a mechanic for a broken down PD vehicle yet most civ cars can barely hit a road sign.

Allow people to rob other people when they are downed. Currently a massive issue I see is no one fears for life because death is the more convenient option if it means keeping your stuff. NVL is a HUGE issue within this server from what I have gathered and can be remedied by making death something that is now inconvenient (you have to wait for EMS AND you lose all your stuff, yikes!)

Plugin for TS to allow for VOIP as current fiveM and GTA 5 voice is notoriously bad. This generally solves the "can you hear me now??" issues we have a lot of the time.

Different inventory system for vehicles and players.
You need to ditch the text based system for something different. Too many exploits with the current system IMO. Whatever you use for the house storage is the proper inventory system that I would recommend as it would cut down on item duping etc. if not eradicate it. Would also allow players to store items inside their car as the current weight system is horrendously unbalanced.

keep house robberies off or replace them with NPC houses. House robberies are and will be extremely toxic. Allowing someone to take things that are in safe storage in a house that cost (potentially) millions of dollars in game defeats the purpose of even owning a house in the first place. As we saw the other day, this is an extremely abusive mechanic and honestly, I don't trust people to play by the rules when it comes to these things.

The elimination of allowing a "throw away character"
This is one of the strange things I have encountered in this server.

People will make characters and kill them off while being arrested by the police.
These characters are often known as throw away characters because they serve no purpose other than to do something you wouldn't normally do on your primary character. How these characters get access to some of the equipment they do, I will not get into. I can however say that this offers NO ROLEPLAY BENEFIT and essentially gives people free reign to do whatever they want without any sort of penalty and doesn't allow for story building at all.

Stop allowing people to speak out of character. Make people actually create a character and stay in it.
OOC should not be used for chat and should simply be used for OOC purposes (to explain an issue etc when /report is not needed). With the elimination of the F5 menu, I can see a sharp decrease in meta gaming as it was the worst I have ever seen previously. However it still does exist with out of game communications and taking OOC infomation and turning it into IC information. One thing I would like to see is that a players characters are separate entities not related family members as most people consider them now. Why? When you ask someone to do something, instead of a yes or a no you will be met with a "I don't want to, but let me bring my cousin in" I probably do not know your "cousin" and they do not know me. How would we then run into one another without sharing OOC information? This is the single biggest issue I have with this server. If you guys say it's a serious RP server why does it feel like it's just some sort of watered down VR chat?

 

[Legend]

These are some of the suggestions I put forward at the meeting we had last time, figured I would write them out a bit more detailed with some explanations as to why I said what I said.

lower the speed of all vehicles and give Vapid cars some sort of custom handling to put them on par with the imported cars. This will change the current vehicle meta and allow people to actually utilize stolen cars for things along with breaking up seeing the same cars all the time because they are the only ones worth using (essentially breaking up the fast car is the best getaway car meta) Along with being more friendly for newer players. I would also like PD vehicles to be looked at and reduce the health pools a bit to make it a driving skills competition instead of someone in a car made of paper vs a car made of tungsten. Rarely have I been to a call as a mechanic for a broken down PD vehicle yet most civ cars can barely hit a road sign.

Allow people to rob other people when they are downed. Currently a massive issue I see is no one fears for life because death is the more convenient option if it means keeping your stuff. NVL is a HUGE issue within this server from what I have gathered and can be remedied by making death something that is now inconvenient (you have to wait for EMS AND you lose all your stuff, yikes!)

Plugin for TS to allow for VOIP as current fiveM and GTA 5 voice is notoriously bad. This generally solves the "can you hear me now??" issues we have a lot of the time.

Different inventory system for vehicles and players.
You need to ditch the text based system for something different. Too many exploits with the current system IMO. Whatever you use for the house storage is the proper inventory system that I would recommend as it would cut down on item duping etc. if not eradicate it. Would also allow players to store items inside their car as the current weight system is horrendously unbalanced.

keep house robberies off or replace them with NPC houses. House robberies are and will be extremely toxic. Allowing someone to take things that are in safe storage in a house that cost (potentially) millions of dollars in game defeats the purpose of even owning a house in the first place. As we saw the other day, this is an extremely abusive mechanic and honestly, I don't trust people to play by the rules when it comes to these things.

The elimination of allowing a "throw away character"
This is one of the strange things I have encountered in this server.

People will make characters and kill them off while being arrested by the police.
These characters are often known as throw away characters because they serve no purpose other than to do something you wouldn't normally do on your primary character. How these characters get access to some of the equipment they do, I will not get into. I can however say that this offers NO ROLEPLAY BENEFIT and essentially gives people free reign to do whatever they want without any sort of penalty and doesn't allow for story building at all.

Stop allowing people to speak out of character. Make people actually create a character and stay in it.
OOC should not be used for chat and should simply be used for OOC purposes (to explain an issue etc when /report is not needed). With the elimination of the F5 menu, I can see a sharp decrease in meta gaming as it was the worst I have ever seen previously. However it still does exist with out of game communications and taking OOC infomation and turning it into IC information. One thing I would like to see is that a players characters are separate entities not related family members as most people consider them now. Why? When you ask someone to do something, instead of a yes or a no you will be met with a "I don't want to, but let me bring my cousin in" I probably do not know your "cousin" and they do not know me. How would we then run into one another without sharing OOC information? This is the single biggest issue I have with this server. If you guys say it's a serious RP server why does it feel like it's just some sort of watered down VR chat?

This is a great reply. I really like your perspective on car balancing, inventory, NVL and OOC. Very well said.

A small note on the TeamSpeak voice which is called TokoVoip...it’s being discontinued and servers are being forced to move to mumblevoip (what we use). It’s in development so will get better with time.

 

[Jolly]

The only thing I remember with the ability to rob dead bodies was that it created a pretty toxic situation of players just gunning people down for little reason other than robbing their body. As far as I remember that's why it was turned off.

 

[Gucio]

I agree with the NVL going on. I have encountered so many people who did not value their life, and rather die cause it means they can keep all of there items. People say oh you can rob them when they are down, but they didn't put their hands up when they were alive, what makes you think they'll do it when they are down? Literally every time I report it, an admin comes and they get a warning, so it's been super abused and something should change about that. I understand the part with giving people warnings etc but it can only go to a limit. If it was a dead to right situation, example with a gun to his head, 5 people around with guns aimed at a person, and they don't value life, it should be a instant 3 day + ban . The situations where it can be looked at like "well he had an opportunity" is different. But an obvious situation they should be punished, way too many warnings being given out and people rather do that, then lose whatever items they have.

The F5 update was one of the best updates in awhile. It doesn't fix meta gaming but it sure does a much better job. The direction of the server has been going great and I give the team lots of props. It's hard implementing new things cause every little thing can affect a server.

Having multiple characters makes the RP enjoyable for people. Some people have criminal characters, working characters etc. People build their characters however they want too, and it makes RPing more fun, but everyone should have access to the same items.

Also for whitelisted jobs, it feels like nobody is around anymore. It's literally impossible to get a hold of someone in Dynasty, and PDM is rarely open. I always see people on twitter trying extremely hard to get in contact with them and are unable too. I've had an issue when I purchased my house and the garage was bugged and didn't show up and they have to redo it. It's been a week. I understand that people aren't on as much as they use too but those gaps need to filled. I'm not saying to hire any and everybody but I've had friends put in applications for whitelisted jobs and they don't even get a response back from most of them, and they've been in the server for 7+ months.

 

[iLLusion99]

I have to say, the server has improved drastically from what it once was, but there are still thing that need to change.

Ill start off with the white listed job issue. Like Gucio said, it is next to impossible to get a hold of Dynasty8 and PDM is not far behind. I myself have applied for jobs with these companies and had not even gotten back a response, and ive been playing on the server literally from the start. (I am in no way saying this means i should get any job id like, but it certainly shows my RP and dedication arent an issue) I understand that people arent as active now as school is a factor, but there are still active members that are applying and being ignored.

Another issue IMO is the current player and car inventory. For starters players can hold almost as much or as little as they'd like and nothing changes, the run and walk speed are the same and it honestly doesn't really make sense to me. On the car storage side, it is completely out of wack. 1 bullet from a gun is set to weigh 1 kilogram, for you Americans 1 kilogram is around 2.2 pounds, certainly a lot for a bullet to weigh if you ask me. Long story short, the car storage system needs an overhaul. Im not saying its super urgent but its definitely something to look into for the future.

These next few things arent issues but more things up for debate/discussion.

I disagree with the option to rob dead players. This was implemented before and was super toxic, led to people killing anyone for stupid reasons just to easily rob them while they were downed. While the idea itself makes sense, if you plan to rob someone and you have to shoot them, you're still gonna rob them, it becomes to toxic. If anything LE can add it in for a week or two and have people give feedback.

On the topic of "Throw Away Characters" I agree that these are garbage, there is no RP involved with them and they ruin RP for others. As much as I would love to see the option of having multiple character removed this would upset many people. Lots of members have multiple characters that are actually used in RP and sometimes the pros just outweigh the cons.

 

[I am Snoops]

I believe a way that could potentially counter the "Throw Away Characters" issue would be reduced punishment by cops in general, or at least something to do in jail. Most of the time when people are jailed for 60+ minutes they will just leave the city and play something else or completely get off, with this some people just delete that character and create a new one. A few ways to counter this could be a limit to the amount of characters one can make a day, week, etc. or just reducing the fines and time served when one goes to jail, this would somewhat make being criminal sustainable, therefore people would have a reason to continue on one character's legacy. I know this would be fairly hard to implement but I figure it would be rather beneficial and remove the idea of "Throw Away Characters" in total.

 

[EchoFX]

It's literally impossible to get a hold of someone in Dynasty

Like Gucio said, it is next to impossible to get a hold of Dynasty8

As a Dynasty8 employee, I just want to comment on this. The amount of times I have jumped into the city, checked twitter, seeing people looking for D8 employees and I tweet at them to call me and I don't get a response is staggering for people complaining about not being able to reach them. Maybe it's the new twitter system and people not checking back often enough or maybe people are literally making their tweet and then exiting the game moments later without an instant reply. It happens a lot though.

Also, I want to also comment on people who are looking for Dynasty8 agents but want to circumvent the entire process. Realistically, you should not be filling out a Property Request form without first contacting an agent, getting your property appraised and going through the system. However, I will have people tell me "I've filled out the forms. I've done everything. I just need the circle placed"

Stop this. The point of Dynasty8 is to generate roleplay. You are supposed to meet with an agent and be given a form to fill out. From there, you may have to wait for the property to be appraised, if it isn't already. Then, from there, your agent will schedule with a supervisor to have the keys given to you and payment taken (circles placed).

Stop treating the housing system like a video game and that you're going to get your property instantly. Refer to how real estate works in real life. There's a process. Because, I'll tell ya right now, if you contact me and tell me you've done everything and just need a circle placed, I'm going to ignore you. You're wasting my time and not even trying to roleplay at that point.

Rant over.