Disabling the robbery script.

Marcoboy24

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I have noticed that lately we have stopped the robbery scripts for roleplay purposes like warrants or the new heist. Which i can understand, but could we atleast get a warning or post beforehand?
I have setup my own robbery scene and plan them out. Only day is pritty much saturday when I can do this.
Then we show up to find out the script is disabled and we just spend 3-4 hours for nothing.
Roleplay is fun, But disabling the script ruins it for others.
 
Why would the robbery scripts be disabled, at all? Just another thing taken away from criminals eh? :rolleyes:
 
Why would the robbery scripts be disabled, at all? Just another thing taken away from criminals eh? :rolleyes:
because certain robberies or roleplay may take the entirety of the police presence, and it would be detrimental to their roleplay to allow robberies to go off that may not share cooldowns with robberies from other scripts.
 
Only thinking about it from the criminal perspective is toxic and I don't see anyone in here advocating for the cops so correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.

You have to realize that the police in the city would love to have fun, too. They're not bots. They have the same feelings as all of us and would really like to enjoy not being called to each and every single bank in the entire city all at once when there are hardly any cops on.

If you put yourselves in their shoes where they have to deal with all of the dumb things we do every single day along with the kids that come into the server just to mess around and cause chaos, you'd love a little bit of a break as well with something you CAN control. The banks. You'd also like it if not each and every single bank got hit at the exact same time. Why? Because that's toxic. That ruins the fun for cops.

It sucks that your plan for a bank robbery gets foiled for a few hours and you can't get your dirty money, but it also really sucks for the officers of the city who just want to see good RP scenes instead of "You know the deal, no spike strips, no air1,etc.," at almost every single bank robbery that they even get to show up at.

As for criminal brain... yeah scripts being turned off suck, but we could do better and give constructive criticism and offer alternatives because LE shouldn't be expected to come up with solutions for everything and they want to hear what we think and what we have to say about things added to the city, removed from the city, etc,.



I want to edit to clarify things: The FiveM server should be fun. It should be filled with good RP. I'm an advocate for the Criminal side getting more things to do since we're all bored as hell and the only exciting thing for a lot of lower tiered criminals is Bank Robbery after Bank Robbery, but this is creating a low standard for the roleplay involved. Every time I hear someone say "Man I thought of all this really good Bank Robbery ideas where we can give good RP" it's just bare minimum roleplay. No disrespect to you, no disrespect to anyone else who may have pretty standard robberies. It's not hard to get bank cards, anyone can get them, and it really shows. Robberies, Heists, and Muggings should give the criminal good RP AND the police who respond. We forget that when we're out there doing the act because we don't want to get caught. Contrary to popular belief, you can still give amazing roleplay, not get caught, and give the police great roleplay as well. Not only do I AGREE the script should be turned off for certain things, I believe there should be a cooldown. There's no reason the police have to deal with the lowlife criminals AND get bank calls at the same time all day every day all the time. They're stretched thin and because of the roleplay we give out, they don't even really want to go to these calls because it's the same generic thing every time! It's selfish to demand that things get turned back on and overload an entire group of people just because you want some money. Giving the bare minimum rp is causing people who give fantastic roleplay and really well thought out roleplay to be overlooked because the cops are way too busy with some idiot on the road just shooting around like mad or a group of people that want to start beef with the cops because they are mad they got caught doing stupid stuff. I have waited and waited and waited to actually get a scene started because they were far too busy more times than I can count. We need to start actually giving good roleplay because when cops are just exposed to lowlife after lowlife crappy RP, they treat everyone else like they do them. It's not fair for everyone. So I'm sorry the bank script gets turned off every now and then... but we need to take a deeper reflection on what we can do to make this a better place and give better RP so it never had to get to the point where the police are so overloaded. Time to reflect and take responsibility, everyone.
Standard disclaimer that this is not aimed at anyone in particular, it's just something that I feel like needs to be said because it ties into a lot of things people have been complaining about for ages.
 
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Only thinking about it from the criminal perspective is toxic and I don't see anyone in here advocating for the cops so correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.

You have to realize that the police in the city would love to have fun, too. They're not bots. They have the same feelings as all of us and would really like to enjoy not being called to each and every single bank in the entire city all at once when there are hardly any cops on.

If you put yourselves in their shoes where they have to deal with all of the dumb things we do every single day along with the kids that come into the server just to mess around and cause chaos, you'd love a little bit of a break as well with something you CAN control. The banks. You'd also like it if not each and every single bank got hit at the exact same time. Why? Because that's toxic. That ruins the fun for cops.

It sucks that your plan for a bank robbery gets foiled for a few hours and you can't get your dirty money, but it also really sucks for the officers of the city who just want to see good RP scenes instead of "You know the deal, no spike strips, no air1,etc.," at almost every single bank robbery that they even get to show up at.

As for criminal brain... yeah scripts being turned off suck, but we could do better and give constructive criticism and offer alternatives because LE shouldn't be expected to come up with solutions for everything and they want to hear what we think and what we have to say about things added to the city, removed from the city, etc,.

100% agree with all of this. It should also be noted that when we turn off the script for these scenarios that you listed it’s usually because most if not all of the cops would not be available to respond with to the robberies so in the end it would be no plan for criminals to follow through with other than to just go, get the money and leave which isn’t really the role play I expect the criminals want.
 
100% agree with all of this. It should also be noted that when we turn off the script for these scenarios that you listed it’s usually because most if not all of the cops would not be available to respond with to the robberies so in the end it would be no plan for criminals to follow through with other than to just go, get the money and leave which isn’t really the role play I expect the criminals want.

You'd be surprised at the amount of people that count on and WAIT for the cops to being super busy so they can do an in-and-out robbery. It's embarrassing. I edited the post to clarify where I was really going with this all.
 
You'd be surprised at the amount of people that count on and WAIT for the cops to being super busy so they can do an in-and-out robbery. It's embarrassing. I edited the post to clarify where I was really going with this all.
Id like to add, i think the problem stems from lack of content (there are many ways of making money i the city but not many as exciting and less standing and gathering for an hour for just 60k. robbing a bank would be the best way that i know of, ofc selling blunts makes you alot of money but it isnt reliable (need to wait for players).
Also i think the point was more lack of communication, letting people know when major changes happen that affect the city is nice such as disabling a script or changing a mechanic (unless meamt to be found ic ofc) etc.
If i missunderstand let me know
I understand the situation but letting marco know beforehand wouldve fixed the issue before it became one.
 
As you might know B Blossom RipplyTiger151 RipplyTiger151 I am an officer and i spent most of my time on as an officer. I know what it is like to show up to the robberys where half the times the criminals are gone.
I know what its like to get shit RP. Hence I do my best for my robberys. I always put thought in them and come up with plans to get away.
All im asking is for a heads up, like hey the script is going down. So that i dont have to waste my time that night.
Im from a different timezone and I like playing here, My saturdays are the only days i can be on as late as I did and i spent that time for the robbery. Only to find out the script is disabled. Is a warning to much to ask for?
 
Agreed it can be annoying. Just give an announcement or something saying the robberys will be disabled before operations.
 
Id like to add, i think the problem stems from lack of content (there are many ways of making money i the city but not many as exciting and less standing and gathering for an hour for just 60k. robbing a bank would be the best way that i know of, ofc selling blunts makes you alot of money but it isnt reliable (need to wait for players).
Also i think the point was more lack of communication, letting people know when major changes happen that affect the city is nice such as disabling a script or changing a mechanic (unless meamt to be found ic ofc) etc.
If i missunderstand let me know
I understand the situation but letting marco know beforehand wouldve fixed the issue before it became one.

Lack of content and being bored, yes!
I understand that. I think notifying people the script is down is also fantastic but this did open up a conversation that needed to happen.
 
Only thinking about it from the criminal perspective is toxic and I don't see anyone in here advocating for the cops so correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.

You have to realize that the police in the city would love to have fun, too. They're not bots. They have the same feelings as all of us and would really like to enjoy not being called to each and every single bank in the entire city all at once when there are hardly any cops on.

If you put yourselves in their shoes where they have to deal with all of the dumb things we do every single day along with the kids that come into the server just to mess around and cause chaos, you'd love a little bit of a break as well with something you CAN control. The banks. You'd also like it if not each and every single bank got hit at the exact same time. Why? Because that's toxic. That ruins the fun for cops.

It sucks that your plan for a bank robbery gets foiled for a few hours and you can't get your dirty money, but it also really sucks for the officers of the city who just want to see good RP scenes instead of "You know the deal, no spike strips, no air1,etc.," at almost every single bank robbery that they even get to show up at.

As for criminal brain... yeah scripts being turned off suck, but we could do better and give constructive criticism and offer alternatives because LE shouldn't be expected to come up with solutions for everything and they want to hear what we think and what we have to say about things added to the city, removed from the city, etc,.



I want to edit to clarify things: The FiveM server should be fun. It should be filled with good RP. I'm an advocate for the Criminal side getting more things to do since we're all bored as hell and the only exciting thing for a lot of lower tiered criminals is Bank Robbery after Bank Robbery, but this is creating a low standard for the roleplay involved. Every time I hear someone say "Man I thought of all this really good Bank Robbery ideas where we can give good RP" it's just bare minimum roleplay. No disrespect to you, no disrespect to anyone else who may have pretty standard robberies. It's not hard to get bank cards, anyone can get them, and it really shows. Robberies, Heists, and Muggings should give the criminal good RP AND the police who respond. We forget that when we're out there doing the act because we don't want to get caught. Contrary to popular belief, you can still give amazing roleplay, not get caught, and give the police great roleplay as well. Not only do I AGREE the script should be turned off for certain things, I believe there should be a cooldown. There's no reason the police have to deal with the lowlife criminals AND get bank calls at the same time all day every day all the time. They're stretched thin and because of the roleplay we give out, they don't even really want to go to these calls because it's the same generic thing every time! It's selfish to demand that things get turned back on and overload an entire group of people just because you want some money. Giving the bare minimum rp is causing people who give fantastic roleplay and really well thought out roleplay to be overlooked because the cops are way too busy with some idiot on the road just shooting around like mad or a group of people that want to start beef with the cops because they are mad they got caught doing stupid stuff. I have waited and waited and waited to actually get a scene started because they were far too busy more times than I can count. We need to start actually giving good roleplay because when cops are just exposed to lowlife after lowlife crappy RP, they treat everyone else like they do them. It's not fair for everyone. So I'm sorry the bank script gets turned off every now and then... but we need to take a deeper reflection on what we can do to make this a better place and give better RP so it never had to get to the point where the police are so overloaded. Time to reflect and take responsibility, everyone.
Standard disclaimer that this is not aimed at anyone in particular, it's just something that I feel like needs to be said because it ties into a lot of things people have been complaining about for ages.
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Lack of content and being bored, yes!
I understand that. I think notifying people the script is down is also fantastic but this did open up a conversation that needed to happen.
I agree with this 100%. The cop RP has been lacking the past few weeks. Every time I get on as a cop it's, either a pursuit, bank robbery or someone is killing cops. Now mind you, this isn't necessarily bad RP, but not the best on the server. I hope that I can speak for more cops that we need roleplay that involves us more than arresting and shooting.


I had no idea that the bank robbery script was disabled, but it could be a mistake by LE's side or that they just wanted to disable it for the time being to give cops a break. Now I agree that there should have been a post or announcement regarding it.
 
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