What rules would you like changed - Jailbreak

[Daddy Succ]

First and foremost, this post has no authority, more for fun.

Recently, the jailbreak rules were updated with some nice additions. Bakr recently made a post about updating the TTT rules, so I figured it would be nice to see what the community would like changed in Jailbreak. Once again, no authority and for fun. I'll go first;

I think the "in sight" rule should be changed to "in area". Time and time again, we'll see a CT sitting on high dive or another high point an entire map away from stack and just watch through their awp scope. I think this is in a way unfair for T's who try to rebel and also makes last guard camping easier to get away with. Usually, the CT can't hit any shots and are useless for their teammates. Requiring them to be in the general area of T's unless pursuing rebellers would make everyone's life more enjoyable.

Your turn

 

[sopheyy]

scoping on vent cell = camping vents

 

[DeerFat]

say whatever you want to say

 

[sabo]

If a ct is baiting the t is pardoned that knifes em

 

[Daddy Succ]

scoping on vent cell = camping vents

That would be nice. If I recall correctly, isn't that how it used to be rule wise?

 

[sopheyy]

That would be nice. If I recall correctly, isn't that how it used to be rule wise?

it was like that yea. idk when or why it changed

If a ct is baiting the t is pardoned that knifes em

yesssssssssssss. this makes so much sense

 

[Psych]

no more cts camping hi-dive on clouds. it should be considered playing t games

 

[MilkMan]

If warden lets ct play mini games with ts in it, ts should not be considered rebelling for killing/damaging ct. Because of the ct baiting. Even if warden lets them play. If you want to play mini games go on t

 

[SneakyTurtle]

If your name starts with Sneaky and ends with turtle you get ST every round

 

[QuickiexD]

Staring at vents in any way should be considered camping.

You should not be able to pursue vents through armory. Go pick another vent. Why would our lucky spawn be ruined?

Ct bans should be real time and not game time.

Camping secrets in any way should not be allowed.

Primary Secondary Melee, One Marker Lives, Roulette, and any other luck based game should not only ONLY be played with less than 10 people alive, but not the 2nd game into the round. There’s so many other map games to play.

People who receive consistent bans from CT or CT related offenses causing a server ban should have their priority lowered.

T’s should not get access to guns or knives during HnS special day. It’s hide n seek not try to get a gun and kill CT’s before they leave armory.

As stated above a T killing a obviously baiting CT should be pardoned as quick as possible.

The n word, regardless of if it’s “a” or “er” should be an automatic permanent ban without question. It’s LITERALLY the same word. And anyone who says the “soft a” knows it’s not a permaban and is purposely saying it. Blows my mind how there’s actually people who defend the “soft a” not being racist. If you are using this word and you are not black (which you cannot prove race online anyways) you are racist.

 

[santa]

I am going to be answering some of these and let you all know how plausable these are too add and why or why they wouldn't.

scoping on vent cell = camping vents

Too hard to tell, if someone is just looking around the vent and then see someone run in they scope and shoot how will we know that the player is doing it unless we are spectating them? This would not work just based off the fact that it would be almost impossible to define "scoping on vent" and "looking at vent".

If a ct is baiting the t is pardoned that knifes em

It is your choice to rebel or not rebel. If he is baiting he should be swapped and most of the time if a warden sees a ct do that they will pardon the T.

If warden lets ct play mini games with ts in it, ts should not be considered rebelling for killing/damaging ct. Because of the ct baiting. Even if warden lets them play. If you want to play mini games go on t

You are very correct with your last sentence. If that happened to me you get that gun and kill the warden that let it happen and then its all good

If your name starts with Sneaky and ends with turtle you get ST every round

no

Staring at vents in any way should be considered camping.

How would we know if they are looking at the vent or the cell next to it?

You should not be able to pursue vents through armory. Go pick another vent. Why would our lucky spawn be ruined?

Most of the time CT's don't have enough sus to even pursue vents so when they do I don't see how it should be a huge problem. What if they are rebelling in armory? If we added a rule like that you would have to go through a vent to get to armory which would pretty much let the T end mostly every round if you know how to rebel.

Ct bans should be real time and not game time.

A CT ban is a time where they should not be playing CT. Whether they choose to be on the server or off the server, they are serving their time. "yes i know if gets annoying some times but once you start thinking about it in the way that they actually are not playing at all it should warm your heart"

Camping secrets in any way should not be allowed.

This is already a thing

The n word, regardless of if it’s “a” or “er” should be an automatic permanent ban without question. It’s LITERALLY the same word. And anyone who says the “soft a” knows it’s not a permaban and is purposely saying it. Blows my mind how there’s actually people who defend the “soft a” not being racist. If you are using this word and you are not black (which you cannot prove race online anyways) you are racist.

I don't know what world you live in but 99% of rap songs have the soft a in it which 99% of people sing. Are they racist if they say it? No they aren't. Don't get me wrong hard R is derogatory and should def be a perma but as someone who's friends all say it bc of where I live and it being normal to say I don't think we should be perma banning kids who use that language in a non derogatory way when most of the time they don't think its bad. The people that know our rules and still do it you can ban them its that simple. If they know its not allowed and you know they know for a fact "you have told them this rule or they have been warned for this already" that this isn't allowed you can ban them. I still suggest warning them atleast but if you choose to ban right away then thats fine since we let you guys make decisions with your discretion.

 

[QuickiexD]

Time to make a counter argument.

Too hard to tell, if someone is just looking around the vent and then see someone run in they scope and shoot how will we know that the player is doing it unless we are spectating them? This would not work just based off the fact that it would be almost impossible to define "scoping on vent" and "looking at vent".

Yeah if we are spectating someone and can clearly see them scoping in on the vent cell and not moving that should be defined as scoping on the vent and should be a plausible swap.

It is your choice to rebel or not rebel. If he is baiting he should be swapped and most of the time if a warden sees a ct do that they will pardon the T.

I hate to say I agree but still :/

How would we know if they are looking at the vent or the cell next to it?

Refer to the first statement. If we can physically see them scoping in on the cell then that's camping.

Most of the time CT's don't have enough sus to even pursue vents so when they do I don't see how it should be a huge problem. What if they are rebelling in armory? If we added a rule like that you would have to go through a vent to get to armory which would pretty much let the T end mostly every round if you know how to rebel.

I'd actually argue most of the time CT's DO have enough sus to pursue vents on majority of the maps we play. Although unfortunately it doesn't help your second statement.

A CT ban is a time where they should not be playing CT. Whether they choose to be on the server or off the server, they are serving their time. "yes i know if gets annoying some times but once you start thinking about it in the way that they actually are not playing at all it should warm your heart"

Should be on the server. To get max priority you have to have IN GAME TIME correct? Why not make the CT bans the same?

This is already a thing

I've heard several mixed opinions on this and have been told by management before otherwise. So good to know.

I don't know what world you live in but 99% of rap songs have the soft a in it which 99% of people sing. Are they racist if they say it? No they aren't. Don't get me wrong hard R is derogatory and should def be a perma but as someone who's friends all say it bc of where I live and it being normal to say I don't think we should be perma banning kids who use that language in a non derogatory way when most of the time they don't think its bad. The people that know our rules and still do it you can ban them its that simple. If they know its not allowed and you know they know for a fact "you have told them this rule or they have been warned for this already" that this isn't allowed you can ban them. I still suggest warning them atleast but if you choose to ban right away then thats fine since we let you guys make decisions with your discretion.

I'll start with my response to this one that I grew up and was raised differently in terms of respecting people whether it be their race, gender identity, or whatever it may be. As a white male, the n word is something that never comes out of my mouth. Is the eGO community a rap song? No. And although I hardly ever listen to music anymore, I've never heard a white rapper use it in their lyrics. If someone genuinely has a hard time not using the n word, then that's their own problem. Walk up to a crowd of black people as a white male and say it. Guaranteed even if some of them are okay with it, others would rather beat your ass simply because of not only the history of the word but the fact that its racist. My opinion on this is a lot stronger than most if its not already noticeable, so I don't expect a change on this specific matter but I wont hesitate to state my mind.

 

[Daddy Succ]

Too hard to tell, if someone is just looking around the vent and then see someone run in they scope and shoot how will we know that the player is doing it unless we are spectating them? This would not work just based off the fact that it would be almost impossible to define "scoping on vent" and "looking at vent".

I agree and disagree. For the most part, if we are unsure, they should be left alone. But on certain maps, such as dojo, you will have 2-3 CT's just about every round sitting scoped in on vent cell to shoot people who run to it. I think it should be treated as pursuing vents. If you see someone run into / tp through vent, you pursue it and clear it out. Once it's clear, you leave and that's that. If someone runs into vent, you should be able to scope in on them and shoot them, but after that, it's been cleared. You no longer have to stay scoped in on it. If 6-7 T's are running into it then you obviously stay scoped in to keep killing the rebellers but if you are just staying scoped in on a vent for no reason other than T's commonly rebel that way, I think that's an issue.

Most of the time CT's don't have enough sus to even pursue vents so when they do I don't see how it should be a huge problem. What if they are rebelling in armory? If we added a rule like that you would have to go through a vent to get to armory which would pretty much let the T end mostly every round if you know how to rebel.

I agree. Few maps have vents leading straight to armory from main cell's which allows the CT's to pursue that vent from armory. On the maps that do have vents leading directly from a cell to armory, not allowing the CT's to pursue it would be game breaking imo. Spy v Spy for example would be a terrible map for CT's if you couldn't pursue armory vent when you hear vents break. This would always end in a T win.

 

[santa]

I agree and disagree. For the most part, if we are unsure, they should be left alone. But on certain maps, such as dojo, you will have 2-3 CT's just about every round sitting scoped in on vent cell to shoot people who run to it. I think it should be treated as pursuing vents. If you see someone run into / tp through vent, you pursue it and clear it out. Once it's clear, you leave and that's that. If someone runs into vent, you should be able to scope in on them and shoot them, but after that, it's been cleared. You no longer have to stay scoped in on it. If 6-7 T's are running into it then you obviously stay scoped in to keep killing the rebellers but if you are just staying scoped in on a vent for no reason other than T's commonly rebel that way, I think that's an issue.

How will we know if they are scoped at it or looking at another cell? There just would be no way to admin it realistically.

 

[Daddy Succ]

How will we know if they are scoped at it or looking at another cell? There just would be no way to admin it realistically.

I agree. Unless you are spectating a player for the round and see them aimed at vents the entire time, there isn't much you can do.

 

[santa]

I agree. Unless you are spectating a player for the round and see them aimed at vents the entire time, there isn't much you can do.

in reality we can see but at the same time all they would have to say is "i was looking at the people coming out of the cells next to the vent cell" and there isnt much we can do.

 

[Golden]

Pixel surfing shouldn't be bannable unless its gaining an advantage over anyone

 

[Jacko]

I disagree with reverting the rule back to scoping into vents/secrets is camping. Back when it was a rule it was ridiculously hard to admin especially at the start of the round and it didn't make sense not allowing CT's from viewing vents at a distance when they know people were going to run into them.

This made maps like Vipinthemix and dojo inpossible with 10+ T's running into vents and CT's not being able to look at a rebelling hotspot for more than 3 seconds without being called out.

It was an admining nightmare in my opinion and a bit redundant to enforce considering how T's are usually winning the rounds anyways.

 

[Skle]

Pixel surfing shouldn't be bannable unless its gaining an advantage over anyone

This is already a thing:

41) Are you allowed to pixel surf?
You are only allowed to pixel surf if it does not give you an advantage in a game, location, or while doing a cancer jump.

 

[SneakyTurtle]

If your name starts with Sneaky and ends with turtle you get ST every round

no

Okay hear me out, what about this one. If your name starts with sneaky OR santa () you get ST every round.