weapon comparison

The STG44 also has a lower recoil from what I've seen than the BAR. And more ammo. But some people say the BAR has more power than the STG44, so if you can control the recoil and can make every bullet count, then the BAR is a good gun to use. I myself prefer the STG44, but I don't like playing as Axis.

-Ryu T.
 
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The STG44 also has a lower recoil from what I've seen than the BAR. And more ammo. But some people say the BAR has more power than the STG44, so if you can control the recoil and can make every bullet count, then the BAR is a good gun to use. I myself prefer the STG44, but I don't like playing as Axis.

-Ryu T.
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Not sure how many more times I'll have to say this, its getting tiring as is...

The stg44 and BAR are the SAME. THE SAME... and I did I say, THE SAME in terms of CoF (accuracy), damage,, recoil, and RoF. They differ in terms of clip size and reload time (both being disadvantageous to the BAR). The only "advantage" the BAR has is that it sounds cooler. :)
 
[quote1184697538=Shane]
The only "advantage" the BAR has is that it sounds cooler. :)
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An advantage NOT to be underestimated! ;)
 
Alirght, instead of reading ALL four pages, im going to create the same thing Blindsfell did.


if you dont wanta read all of this, scroll down for my choices
Rockets
America because the it doesnt have the shield blocking your view.

Sniper

I agree with springfield because of scope, its also cleaner, not as much like fingerprints and crap on the lens when you look through it


Mg

This can be a tie, depending on the map. The .30cal is great for long range mging, like on Strand. However, when it comes to surpressing the enemy, mg42 by far is better. It can shoot almost 100 shots before over hearing, thats almost a WHOLE clip from the .30cal Also, a skilled mg user will never overheat their gun because you almost should never shoot full auto.

So for Mg

.30cal= good long range maps like strand and Argentan
Mg42= good on close and mid range maps

Support- First mistake is that the Bar does MORE damage then the stg44. The BAR shoots the same ammo as the m1 garand. The only downside to the bar is that its single shot isn't as accurate as the stg44's single shot. The auto also is just a touch slower. But the bar can kill in two hits to the chest, the st44 takes 3 hits to the chest to kill. So for Support, its more of a personal prefernce. Do you prefer lower dmg, faster shooting and more accurate? Or do you prefer hard hitting and less shots?

Assult classes= Identical weapons, so no winner

Rifle class= Personal prefence of player, mine is m1

Many people hate the m1 garand, why they do? because its not a one shot kill weapon. Well, lets compare this in depth. Pros of the Kar98: Accurate most of the time, high damage. Cons: Bolt action, miss at close range and your screwed.The iron sights take up a LOT of the screen and make it hard to aim. The Kar98 isnt very accurate at super long range, i.e. Strand. Now lets look at the M1 Garand. Pros: Fast shooting, medium-high damage, good iron sights, PERFECT accuracy when using ironsights ( I have spent much time testing this theory and yes, when crouched and zoomed in, you do have perfect accuracy for your bullets) 8 shot clip instead of 5. Cons: 1 hit kill is only for the head. As you can see, the M1 garand is a MUCH better weapon. Looking at the pro's and con's, there is almost no comparision. So it is just a myth of it being a crappy gun :p


So if you dont feel like reading all that crap, heres my my choices upfront.

Bazooka
Springfield
(personal prefence of player, mine is bar)
identical
m1
 
Here's my couple of cents to add to the discussion, more a shot at the guys that made DOD:S


GUNS ARE DIFFERENT!!!!! FOR A REASON!!!!!

Program the guns just as they are. dont balance them. dont adjust or tweak. the thompson SHOULD do more damage than an mp40. just as the 1911 should. have an EXPERIENCED gun operator shoot all the weapons, get used to them, and get his/her oppinion on which has more recoil, controllability, etc.

Not to mention the fact that many of these weapons are not used correctly. take the pistols for example. since WHEN do you rack the slide EVERY TIME YOU DRAW YOU PISTOL??!!! NO!!! BAD DESIGNER GUYS!!!!


Seriously, before you make a game, consult people who ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEYRE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!

I'll get off my soapbox now.
 
Right, because realism is more important than playability or balance.

Anyway, all of my gun preferences are purely sentimental with the exception of the Rocket class' sidearms. The Americans' M1 Carbine is just so far beyond the C96. With the Carbine, I can be on the front lines and be almost as effective as an Assault, but I'm forced to shy back and not really rush with the C96. I really think the C96 needs a bigger clip to balance things out a bit more.
 
I can use that c96 pretty well in open areas, but the m1 carbine has its uses as well. Close quarters? I want a c96.
Open areas and moving up fast? I want my m1 carbine!
As far as what type of rocket launcher is better.....it doesnt matter to me :)
 
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I can use that c96 pretty well in open areas, but the m1 carbine has its uses as well. Close quarters? I want a c96.
Open areas and moving up fast? I want my m1 carbine!
As far as what type of rocket launcher is better.....it doesnt matter to me :)
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The rocket launchers are the same in terms of damage, accuracy, blah blah blah.

However, IIRC one of them has a MUCH LONGER reload time than the other, though I forget which.
 
Realism or whatever, racking the slide everytime i pull out the pistol gets me killed. that simple. and i do that for a living. so its a HUGE pet-peeve for me
 
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I can use that c96 pretty well in open areas, but the m1 carbine has its uses as well. Close quarters? I want a c96.
Open areas and moving up fast? I want my m1 carbine!
As far as what type of rocket launcher is better.....it doesnt matter to me :)
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The C96 can just be so aggravating. I come up behind someone, 10 feet away, stop moving, crouch, and fire, never hitting him with a full clip. With the Carbine, he would never survive. The only things the C96 has over the Carbine is the sheer spam power in close quarters and only a small decrease in accuracy while moving. I still say the C96 needs a larger clip to compensate.

One thing's for sure, though: they're both miles ahead of the P38 on Kalt.

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Realism or whatever, racking the slide everytime i pull out the pistol gets me killed. that simple. and i do that for a living. so its a HUGE pet-peeve for me
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It's a matter of balance, not Valve being sloppy. They want the MGers and snipers to be particularly vulnerable in close quarters, so they force you to be defenseless for a moment. They want to reward your opponent for being able to get right up to you.
 
Agree with most of this, but i think the MG42 is a little better then the 30CAL. but eh all in all, GJ Blindsfell. good read :)
 
I tend to like the MG 42 over the 30cal. The insane rate of fire of the 42 means that you don't have to hold it on the target as long as the 30 cal.

...for anybody that didn't understand the above, it means you can kill your target faster.
 
KAR98 > M1 but M1 good close range
MP40 > Thompson cause when I use thompson it unaccurate compared to MP40
StG44 = BAR, StG wins Rate of Fire and BAR for accuracy
Springfield > ScopedKAR98 scope is better on spring
30 cal > MG42 accuracy no overheating
US rocket > Panzerschreck smaller, faster to reload
Carbine > C38 more headshots, accurate, and longer range
 
i dont like the thomson find iam reloading every few seconds.

i prefer stg44 to bar cus of clip size. bit anoyed you cannot mount a Bar like in dod.

find iam a better sniper with scoped k8.
personal fav is axis rocket! for the hand gun pewpewpewpew
just beats everything in CQC. dont find ammo and issue either. just ask a guy for some :)

my fav machine gun has to be mg42 very fun to use :) can be a pain in the arse getting snipers who are not fully in your sight.
and k98 over garand. tho i do like the PING the garand makes
 
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personal fav is axis rocket! for the hand gun pewpewpewpew
just beats everything in CQC. dont find ammo and issue either. just ask a guy for some :)
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You can't get ammo for sidearms.
 
Been a while since I played, but I liked the Thompson, STG44, MG42 the best. Once in a while I played with the Garand for the rifle grenades.
 
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