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really, for right now. i think the quality of the PII (Phenom II) is amazing for the price. i mean, i know Ryken said you dont need a quad core. This could go both ways right now. Yes and No. Ill explain here haha

Yes, why you could need a quad core -

1) If you multitask alot. or use programs that are really need to use quad core, as in Auto Cad, anything that renders stuff, or just stuff along those lines.

2) Yes, it will future proof you, as long as it survives to the future. Sometimes things just dont last based on how much you OC and how much stress is on it.

No, why you wouldnt need a quad core now -

1) The fastest processors right now are currently high end dual cores (ex. Intel e8400, e8500, and e8600), only because they can overclock amazingly (depending on what you get) and nothing really currently takes full advantage of the quad core.

2) Price. yes, dual cores will be cheaper (depending on what you want to get i suppose...)

And yes, these are just some quick things, not getting into anything too specific.

So all in all to summarize this really super long post no one will probably ever read because they will look at it and be like, "I ain't reading that" but anyways. If it fits into your budget go to with the PII, i would do it in a heartbeat. Or wait and be like my buddy, buy everything else right now, and when you have the money to buy your mobo, and processor then you can buy it last so then you dont have to make any decisions based upon what is out there, and then have something else come out.
 
if you are doing design work on your computer where you need to have two or three big programs at once, go quad, that's a slam dunk no-brainer. If it is a gaming machine, you are better off with dual core.

If you ARE dead set on a quad core, the Phenom II does look like a very nice chip for the price. When I build a computer, it is all about performance for the price. That is why I am such a quad-core hater.
 
i dunno bout you guys but i basically swear up and down on tigerdirect. it is a great site, .ca or .com.
and the e8400 is a great chip but i think its still a bit on the pricey side, and especially if you're lookin to go AMD i'd pick this baby up, which could easily be overclocked up to 3+ ghz.
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4327030
i'd say right now theres no point going quad core either, damn near nothing is optimized for it. and again at tigerdirect they have this great video card for pretty cheap considering the preformance:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4296573&sku=P450-264

you can always find pretty cheap ram, im talkin like 4GB 800mhz for 50-100 and you can find some motherboards that will suit your rig for 150-250. Cases don't really matter unless you really want it to look snazzy, just make sure it has or you can put in some coolin vents/extra fans because you'll of course need to keep it cool.


EDIT: wow chaos those are really good deals! be great for me to see them on newegg.ca too! (and when im ready to upgrade)

WOW i have that KUMA chip bought it at newegg for 40 bux less.tiger is a ripoff..
 
Great suggestions from most of the posters here, but not one has considered the hard drive. You can throw in all the power and quality you want in your RAM, processor, and Video Card, but a slow hard drive will throw a huge throttle. A computer is only as fast as its weakest hardware. With all that power in the computer, you will need at least a dedicated 7200 if not 10K rpm to take advantage of it.
 
Well from the looks of what jv reccomended that hdd looks pretty powerful. Its a variable speed hdd that saves power when not underload. Also, It had 16mb cache which is another facter in hdd. not just speed.

If you really want to get a super fast boot time buy a solid state disk(ssd). They are super fast. I would reccomend a velocirapter but they cost about a forth of your budget. :)
 
Yes, it is a variable speed drive, which in concept is great. However, what it means by a variable speed is that it will switch when under highload, this means that most of the load will fall on the drive at 5400 rpm. Now if it used 7200 for the lowest load, that would be great.
 
Have you ordered the parts yet? If not, Jv's build looks solid, but there's room for improvement.

Keep the P2 X4 810, M4A79T Deluxe and Sapphire HD4870.

Swap out the 500GB for the Caviar Black 640 AALS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319

Replace the mushkin since it doesn't appear to be available, and go for this pair from Patriot: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220347

And finally, switch the OCZ power supply for the Corsair 650TX: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

The total amount for the RAM + PSU + HDD is $250, the same price as Jv's parts, but you get an extra 140GB worth of storage and a more reliable PSU.
 
Thanks guys for all the heads up ordering most to all the parts in a month time..... Space is not a problem.... Have two 1TB exsternals I use for my graphic work and movie editing. I think I only have about 10G left on one of them.. Alot of work I need to get rid of on that :/
 

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