A crazy little thing called Kalt...
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for a couple reasons, a realism server is not an option right now people.
-they are not popular enough
-some of the adminning abilities needed for the mod are off limits and will stay that way
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-they are not popular enough
-some of the adminning abilities needed for the mod are off limits and will stay that way
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I don't want to see realism, cause honestly I don't have the time to sit and wait for the campers to die. I don't play jail in CS:S because I hate to wait for everyone else to die. Let me instant respawn and continue to play.
And honestly if I was in the server and playing Kalt and all of a sudden a bunch of people join in and decide to change it to realism, I will be leaving the server and going to one of our other ones, cause honestly, my life is busy and I want to get as much real playtime in as I can.
But thats just me.
Like I said before, I would like to try a Kalt Instant Respawn, but only one run Normal Kalt, and Kalt at Night. Sometimes people don't like Kalt 1945 and other ones. Atleast with kalt at night, its the same exact layout and positions, only thing that changes is the light.
Now if you could create it for the four different seasons would be cool. In the Spring and summer the ice would melt. Leaves on the ground....etc.
Yes Kalt failed before, but honestly before we lost alot of people admin'ing the server, when people start running around griefing, it does not create a good atmosphere for the mature players. When I was advisor of Kalt, we had a strong backing of admins that were regular Kalt players. They were there daily, and knew what we expected out of them, but best of all they knew how to have fun, without letting it get out of control. We at one point had Kalt into the top 10 DOD:S servers out there. I feel it can be done again, but its going to take some people helping to fill up the server, and getting with the Advisors and DL's to post announcements to help fill it. Once you can get the numbers up there, the pubs start coming in. Kalt always had problems in the morning, from early on till about 1pm EST Kalt was empty, but from then on into the night, Kalt would stay pretty much full. Because the same regulars played every night and we always welcomed the new players into our servers. Kalt is a great starter map for any players. Not open enough to be rifled down all the time, lots of locations for an MG to set up, and flanking positions everywhere!! And the fact that its practically a mirror image of a map makes it almost a stalemate. (Slight advantage for axis on the bridge, but allies get a better defense from their sniper house to stop the push)
I was not here for the downfall of Kalt, and although I am no longer an advisor, I still do have the privilege of being able to post Announcements to the DOD:S steam group, and you can guarantee you will see me posting to help fill up the server and to get all your friends on your friends list to join you as well. I have filled up a server in less than 10 minutes doing it this way. It has worked in Anzio, Flash, and Ava here just recently. You just have to get other eGO members to realize keeping ALL our servers full will guarantee this division stay here for as long as it can. Really, how many other games out there, can keep a following as long as DOD:S has?
And honestly if I was in the server and playing Kalt and all of a sudden a bunch of people join in and decide to change it to realism, I will be leaving the server and going to one of our other ones, cause honestly, my life is busy and I want to get as much real playtime in as I can.
But thats just me.
Like I said before, I would like to try a Kalt Instant Respawn, but only one run Normal Kalt, and Kalt at Night. Sometimes people don't like Kalt 1945 and other ones. Atleast with kalt at night, its the same exact layout and positions, only thing that changes is the light.
Now if you could create it for the four different seasons would be cool. In the Spring and summer the ice would melt. Leaves on the ground....etc.
Yes Kalt failed before, but honestly before we lost alot of people admin'ing the server, when people start running around griefing, it does not create a good atmosphere for the mature players. When I was advisor of Kalt, we had a strong backing of admins that were regular Kalt players. They were there daily, and knew what we expected out of them, but best of all they knew how to have fun, without letting it get out of control. We at one point had Kalt into the top 10 DOD:S servers out there. I feel it can be done again, but its going to take some people helping to fill up the server, and getting with the Advisors and DL's to post announcements to help fill it. Once you can get the numbers up there, the pubs start coming in. Kalt always had problems in the morning, from early on till about 1pm EST Kalt was empty, but from then on into the night, Kalt would stay pretty much full. Because the same regulars played every night and we always welcomed the new players into our servers. Kalt is a great starter map for any players. Not open enough to be rifled down all the time, lots of locations for an MG to set up, and flanking positions everywhere!! And the fact that its practically a mirror image of a map makes it almost a stalemate. (Slight advantage for axis on the bridge, but allies get a better defense from their sniper house to stop the push)
I was not here for the downfall of Kalt, and although I am no longer an advisor, I still do have the privilege of being able to post Announcements to the DOD:S steam group, and you can guarantee you will see me posting to help fill up the server and to get all your friends on your friends list to join you as well. I have filled up a server in less than 10 minutes doing it this way. It has worked in Anzio, Flash, and Ava here just recently. You just have to get other eGO members to realize keeping ALL our servers full will guarantee this division stay here for as long as it can. Really, how many other games out there, can keep a following as long as DOD:S has?
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Annihilator was an "advisor of Kalt"? It works that way? lol
Two biggest things that bother me about all of this:
1) People arguing how difficult or unpopular realism servers are when they don't even go to those servers/talk to their admins about it--whereas those of us arguing for it do.
2) We were told to come up with other ideas and then a few pages later, with limited explanation as to why (they're our servers too, no?), we're suddenly told that one of the popular ideas/suggestions "is not an option."
Wut?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO6D_BAuYCI[/ame]
Two biggest things that bother me about all of this:
1) People arguing how difficult or unpopular realism servers are when they don't even go to those servers/talk to their admins about it--whereas those of us arguing for it do.
2) We were told to come up with other ideas and then a few pages later, with limited explanation as to why (they're our servers too, no?), we're suddenly told that one of the popular ideas/suggestions "is not an option."
Wut?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO6D_BAuYCI[/ame]
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Well he was an advisor back when I use to be in eGO. But I do see why a realism server won't really work.
I really have no idea what to fill the server with... Fast pace orange arena map?
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Your friendly DL Spray stepping in here.
Unless stated by a DoD:S DL or Council member, no opinions in this thread are final. This is simply a brainstorming session to come up with some good ideas about what to do with Argentan, all ideas are welcome.
Thanks guys, keep posting!
Unless stated by a DoD:S DL or Council member, no opinions in this thread are final. This is simply a brainstorming session to come up with some good ideas about what to do with Argentan, all ideas are welcome.
Thanks guys, keep posting!
Ok. I think this is a good time for me to post in this thread. I have been watching it over the past few days and have been planning putting my two cents in.
Some of the issues people have raised
We can easily have both Kalt and Realism keeping the majority of members happy and willing to get behind it and make sure of its success.
The ONLY issue I see is changing maps for realism rounds. If leadership truely want to I am sure we could easily work around this. I mean Doesn't Stormy have the ability to change maps? Is he in Leadership? There only needs to be a handfull of senior realism admins with this ability.
Just my thoughts on this matter,
Kiwi
Some of the issues people have raised
1 - Admining for eGO standards
Ok so if we join any other pub server you will find people cussing ,being abusive etc . . . , However, join eGOs servers and they are clean. Why can we not achieve the same result in this sever?
2 - Population
If we just have a fully dedicated kalt server I believe we will take away regulars from other eGO servers, thus hurting there ranking. This happened when Anzio first arrived, a lot of players shifted from Kalt to Anzio (Anzio is my second map choice now) crippling kalt. I fear that would Kill Flash completly.
Also Realisms usually stay populated much later than regular severs. The last few nights I was playing on Donner then popped over to a realism. After finishing around 2am I checked our servers. . . Only Ava with 25ish people. Also Kalt should be the defult map when there is no realism. So say Kalt stays 90% populated there is no reason to start a realism.
In my opinion one of the reasons why argentain was a flop was because we were kept under the carpet and told "HEY, we are getting rid of kalt for Argentain". Anzio was a success because people were supportive of the moce PLUS it had a handfull of dedicated supporters wanting it to work, Argentain never had this. Ok so if we join any other pub server you will find people cussing ,being abusive etc . . . , However, join eGOs servers and they are clean. Why can we not achieve the same result in this sever?
2 - Population
If we just have a fully dedicated kalt server I believe we will take away regulars from other eGO servers, thus hurting there ranking. This happened when Anzio first arrived, a lot of players shifted from Kalt to Anzio (Anzio is my second map choice now) crippling kalt. I fear that would Kill Flash completly.
Also Realisms usually stay populated much later than regular severs. The last few nights I was playing on Donner then popped over to a realism. After finishing around 2am I checked our servers. . . Only Ava with 25ish people. Also Kalt should be the defult map when there is no realism. So say Kalt stays 90% populated there is no reason to start a realism.
We can easily have both Kalt and Realism keeping the majority of members happy and willing to get behind it and make sure of its success.
The ONLY issue I see is changing maps for realism rounds. If leadership truely want to I am sure we could easily work around this. I mean Doesn't Stormy have the ability to change maps? Is he in Leadership? There only needs to be a handfull of senior realism admins with this ability.
Just my thoughts on this matter,
Kiwi
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Sorry for the double post.
Right now I am playing on a different realism with 5 eGO admins, with 25 players. Right now only one eGO server has more players.
Secondly, there is only 2 members of the clan hosting the server. Why can't we do this?
Right now I am playing on a different realism with 5 eGO admins, with 25 players. Right now only one eGO server has more players.
Secondly, there is only 2 members of the clan hosting the server. Why can't we do this?
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Servers are sluggish because admins are on other servers playing... Instead of trying to help fill servers?
I have done my Fair share of server seeding Thanks!
We are taught in admin school that we are here to have fun, its not a job. If this wasn't the case then C Whit would not be allowed in Jail or Blue in black-ops. I would say that it displays the demand for a realism server.
. . . I don't want to turn this into personal attack/flamming thread again. so. .
If it so happened that we did end up having realism, it is not like there is going to be no Kalt. I think a hybrid server is our best option, 85% Kalt and 15% realism (maybe later at night?). If we just go back to kalt it will eventually die like has done before. Realism is one of bright sparks left in DoDs, lets atleast give it a shot.
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Hey I went to that same school too!
But really this is what I was getting at with my post.
"Right now I am playing on a different realism with 5 eGO admins, with 25 players. Right now only one eGO server has more players. "
To tell the truth I was never a fan of Kalt but to say it will eventually die... Well atleast give it a shot.
It's just that every time I see any post on here about server problems or anything about our servers... It always ends up no matter what into "LETS BRING KALT BACK" discussion.
Well to change it up I always liked a rotation server with voting for the next map. Haven't seen that mention yet.
im completely with kiwi on this, we are stuggling to keep the 24/7 servers we have right now full, the introduction of kalt will just make us see donner/flash and anzio drop numbers, or kalt wont have anyone join at all.
what we need is to attract new players to our servers, and keep our members playing on our servers. at the moment it feels like im putting in alot of effort for eGO, helping start up servers, playing for our comp team through crippling lag etc. but getting nothing out of it. if we really go back to a kalt 24/7 i may have to call it a day for eGO and start playing on other servers :crying:
what we need is to attract new players to our servers, and keep our members playing on our servers. at the moment it feels like im putting in alot of effort for eGO, helping start up servers, playing for our comp team through crippling lag etc. but getting nothing out of it. if we really go back to a kalt 24/7 i may have to call it a day for eGO and start playing on other servers :crying:
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Back in the day, (not even two years ago). Before houses dissolved, advisors were placed over specific servers. When the houses went away, it changed the specifics on advisors. I was chosen as advisor because 90% of my gameplay was in Kalt. It wasn't until after I became advisor, that I got into running events, handling other forum issues, ban requests, and contests, and the fact that because my name starts with "A" that I became the first go to guy when players had issues.
People seem to have an idea that I am just an advocate of Kalt, and I am in a way, but only because I know it can operate and stay full, because we have in the past. If I felt that the interest just isn't there anymore, I would not expect leadership to keep it on. I just want the opportunity to give it my best to make sure that it can survive. If it doesn't then something else can be done.
On another side note, we have this event server, that sits empty 60% of the time, why can't we run something on there when there are no events going on? Maybe not even a pub server, but a mapvote server for members with a password we have setup? That way if a group wants to get together and you have an advisor with realism experience you can run a Realism event or special map event off the cuff, and simply with a Steam Usergroup message or Steam Friends invite.
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Kalt Instant Respawn would be nice.
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Annihilator brings up a great point. We have the Event server. Why dont we use it? Have the 24/7 Kalt, but lets run Realism when we want, excluding when there is an event. The realism admins (Who according to Skippy, Death and Kiwi should be "senior" admins) need to have an understanding of the events scheduled and we wouldnt allowed realism 15-30 minutes before any events.
You gave Stormy control to change one server, the event server right? We're senior admins for a reason, we can handle responsibility to have the power to change one server. I think this would make everyone happy, and we'd have 2 servers with more people than a dead Argentan.
You gave Stormy control to change one server, the event server right? We're senior admins for a reason, we can handle responsibility to have the power to change one server. I think this would make everyone happy, and we'd have 2 servers with more people than a dead Argentan.
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My only concern with bringing the event server on for this would be that it doesn't allow it to develop a level of pub players outside of the realisms. It's harder to start a realism from scratch on a server that only realisms happen on, if there's not a base on it to begin with it becomes extremely difficult keep starting it.
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