Feedback from the community - Please Read.

GardenGroveVW

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FIRST - Mandatory Meetings - Discussing new policies for fortifying the spirit of eGO. When people notice something thats not
                             Going so well in the community, Have a meeting and discuss it. This will refrain from you getting
                             Messages like this from me and will be taken care of quickly. If this was my oganisation, I would
                             have meetings a lot more with the Counsil and Advisors and Division Leaders. Just so These people
                             "That KNOW what they got into before they signed up to be them in the first place" remember that
                             they have a job to do. If they dont want to do it, then there are other people willing to take
                             their place.

SECOND - QUOTAS - I know this sounds rediculous, But JohnT and Artimus want a great quality community. and with Great Quality
                  comes Work. Everyone seems to have this mentality that the orginazation runs itself, and thats NOT the case.
                  There needs to be certain QUOTAS that need to be met by higher authority so we know that they are doing their
                  job instead of sitting around watching eGO COM. go into flames.

THIRD - Application Process - I know we have an "Open Door Policy" Where anyone can join eGO. If you notice, When someone is
                              accepted, THEN we decide to throw the book at them with the following:

                              -Rules of Conduct
                              -Stickies
                              -Active on Website
                              -Stay in Contact
                              -Report to Roll Calls
                              -and asking them to please attend events.

                              Like I said, i know that this is an "Open Door Policy" but dont you think that people should
                              Know about all of this BEFORE they are approved? All i'm saying is that the "Application Process"
                              needs to be a little more personable and in depth than just a few posts back in forward on the
                              forums and never getting to know one another.
                              If I were to be a recruiter like this, i might as well be letting anyone join that i want.
                              There needs to be a point where the interviewer and the applicant actually go 1on1 in a chat
                              and talk back and forward. I would ask about our rules of conduct and what we expect, while at
                              the same time finding out if the person is serious about joining, or just wanting to have an =(e)=
                              next to their name. This would also make the applicant feel as though they are getting involved in
                              a more serious role, which would make them feel honored. And if not, then thats 1 more person that
                              wont be joining on the list of 10,000 others that are "inactive" that we never heard from again.
                              Sometimes you really need to ask yourself "Quality before Quanity" and THEN focus on Quanity.
                              Build a strong backbone of members, then focus on recruites. This assures your progression of
                              the eGO community.
                              
                              -Business Managment 101

FOURTH - Promotion Process - This almost applies with the application process. I know you guys have a way of doing things, but
                             sometimes easy just isint the way to go. I belive that a promotion should be earned, not given.
                             Attending an Admin class for a G is just a little bit to easy. Again we need to focus on Quality
                             and not Quanity for right now, and once we build a backbone, THEN you focus on quanity. If there is
                             anything you want quanity on its =(e)=™'s. But e's that were brought in the way thats been said in
                             my "third" category so they at least have some background. I would feel perfectly fine if you had to
                             take a TEST to get your eGO lisence. i garentee you if that were the case then you wouldnt see HALF
                             the O's that are in eGO today. For instance ........ he went from e to eGO in less than 2 months.
                             because he had a friend that was an eGO and he actually isint even in the community anymore. He rage
                             quit eGO for the same reason why im talking to you guys about this. I have seen eG's and even e's
                             for crying out loud that have contributed to eGO more than he has.

FIFTH - VENT - This is a really rediculous idea to let counsil and advisor members beable to to go the top of the vent in the "General
               Room" channels and password them. Why on earth are they General Room channels then? Theres not enough of them as there is.
               Also, Vent needs to be cleaned up. I have had many vents in my life time, and I have a little something called OCD. So our
               Vent drives me crazy. Lets look at the topics of disscusion on this subject.

               -Too many rooms. - it makes our vent look really ugly and makes people forcefuly segregate from people they dont know.
                                  which ultimatly boils down to people not getting to know one another. If we limited the number of rooms,
                                  but still kept a good amount, Maybe this wouldnt be an issue. The times where i have made good friends
                                  in eGO were the times where i joined a channel with someone in it cause there were no empty ones and
                                  introduced myself.
               -Too many different names - Again makes vent ugly. It needs to look more Clean and Simple.
               -Needs Private Rooms - This is so people can have a room to themselves where noone can interupt them.
               -*THIS IS A MUST*General ROoms - You need to move the General Rooms to the bottom, because everyone goes to the General
                                                Rooms by default because they are at the top of the list, And everyone is always asking
                                                What game they play. Well.. Subtract from General Rooms, and Add Gaming Rooms... Problem Solved.

               For instance, If this was my vent, i would have it look like this. Nice and simple for everyone. Because ours is just plain UGLY.

EdgeGamers Organization (http://www.edgegamers.org)  
-The Lobby
  -Divisions
    -Day of Defeat: Source
       -Room 1
       -Room 2
       -Room 3
       -Private Room
       -Scrim Room
    -CounterStrike: Source
       -Room 1
       -Room 2
       -Room 3
       -Private Room
       -Scrim Room
    -Call-Of-Duty
       -Room 1
       -Room 2
       -Room 3
       -Private Room
       -Scrim Room
    -Team Fortress 2
       -Room 1
       -Room 2
       -Room 3
       -Private Room
       -Scrim Room
    -Insurgency
       -Room 1
       -Room 2
       -Room 3
       -Private Room
       -Scrim Room
  -Other Games
    -Eve Online
    -World of Warcraft
-Private Rooms
  -Council
  -Advisors
  -Division Leaders
    -CS:S
    -DOD:S
    -TF2
    -INS
  -eGO
  -eG
-Creative Corner
  -Music Room
  -Art
  -Game Design
-General Rooms
  -General Rooms PG
    -General Room 1
    -General Room 2
    -General Room 3 (Speex)
    -General Room 4 (Speex)
  -General Rooms R
    -General Room 1
    -General Room 2
    -General Room 3 (Speex)
    -General Room 4 (Speex)
  -General Rooms Private
    -Private Room 1 (Do Not Disturb)
    -Private Room 2 (Do Not Disturb)
    -Private Room 3 (Do Not Disturb)
-AFK (Away From Keyboard)

Pm received about the community. Your thoughts? (Do not post 'I Agree' or 'I disagree.' If you agree with any thing above, please tell us what you agree too, and what you don't agree with. Giving us a 'I agree' only doesn't help us with the current situation.

This pm was sent to us from an eG.
 
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Yea I agree with him. We need to be more organized and Im sure we could do things way more efficiently as a community and divisions. Its not hard to do. Its just the fact that we need to put effort into them. I like the vent set-up that he has. And People cant always make the meetings. Thats why recordings are there, all you have to do is download it, and listen to it. YOu could even do school work and listen at the same time, even game.



+1 for vent set-up


My 2 Cents,
Focus
 
I like the vent idea too, But i don't think mandatory meeting will go over well. Too many people have extra stuff. (Sports, Holiday, Family, etc.)
 
I love the new vent set up your thinking of it looks nice and more organized but for the meetings it is ok due to people have stuff to do like what Saeten said. The Quota thing is ok but sometimes on servers that have good communites it would be hard to hit the quota.
 
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I feel the quota idea is really bad. This would make eG's and eGO's feel very pressured. IMO if i dont ban 20 people every month, thats a good thing. Banning less people means more people in the server. Mandatory meetings - Would NEVER fly. As stated above, people are busy, between college, Highschool, Sports, extra activities, and life things, it wouldnt happen. What might happen is a recording that everyone SHOULD watch but people wouldnt like to DL it or have time to watch it. We are a community, not a job. plus for the promotion, i had to do an essay, idk why but they dont do it anymore...
 
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Well that person has mostly the same thoughts as ive had, except for the ventrillo... and especially about the promotion system... like he said I think that they should be earned not given... by earned we mean that we dont just have to be active, we have to SHOW that we actually have characteristics that are suit to be an admin... and maybe there should be some kind of a test that is always different so there werent any ways of cheating.
The only thing I disagree is about ventrilo:P i find it pretty nice :)
 
I feel the quota idea is really bad. This would make eG's and eGO's feel very pressured. IMO if i dont ban 20 people every month, thats a good thing. Banning less people means more people in the server

+1. The quota would really pressure people into trying to start something bad to get someone a "free ban" to finish that quota. It would also really affect our eG's/eGO's that don't have a lot of free time to play, and cannot fill that quota.
 
meetings kinda fishy cause wat if were out?
2nd i do like the vent idea but wat about holystrike?
 
Mandatory meetings? No. Thats a bad idea. We have members from all over the world. Unless JohnT wants to hold meetings at specific times for everyone it would be impossible.
 
i like the idea, i think the mandatory meetings should be for the higher position people imo. ;) Since im sure they have many things they need to discuss that are under the table and build up.
 
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Mandatory meetings? No. Thats a bad idea. We have members from all over the world. Unless JohnT wants to hold meetings at specific times for everyone it would be impossible.

+1. We cant have meetings at 10:00 in the US and let our other euro members feel the consequences.
 
I like how you brought Up bussiness 101. King Roo and I were just talking about how the bad manners or bad management of one section can effect the clan as whole and its ethics. I see no problem with the Open Door Application process, If a person can answer "what is EGO all about" wheater her/she is lying or not , if they get the answer correct, they Know what ego is about. where i find the biggest flaw in ego, is what does a e do if a eG does something agaisnt the book. or what does and EG do if and eGO does something against the book. how are we to regulate if the higher up are against the lower ranks...
 
meetings kinda fishy cause wat if were out?
2nd i do like the vent idea but wat about holystrike?

Give em a single room I don't see why then need 15. I like the vent reworking since it really is way too messy. Mandatory meetings are out and admin quotas are just stupid.
 
i totally agree. about everything. even the mandatory meetings. i agree with those especially because it shows intrest and loyalty
 
I feel that the Vent setup is good and it is very well laid out. The mandatory meetings i feel would be a little much because people have work, sports, etc. As stated earlier that is what recordings are for. I also feel that the quotas for leadership would be hard but it could be a good thing for the community.
 
Mandatory meetings? No. Thats a bad idea. We have members from all over the world. Unless JohnT wants to hold meetings at specific times for everyone it would be impossible.

+1 beta
 
I think that making our vent would look great as there are quite a few rooms. but a couple of issues. if we were to add private rooms, how would we have access to it if we arnt an advisor or above? would they have a pw on them so we dont have people bothering us? I know as an eGO that there have been many times in which in e or an eG needs to talk to me in private and there are no rooms available for me to talk to this person.

i agree with the theory on the promos that they should be earned, we do need quality and and not quantity. We do have a lot of admins for a lot of our servers. There are some servers that need more attention with admins, but that shouldnt be a reason to hand out a ton of promos

i think for the application process, it may be a good idea to talk to the player in vent or in a game before he/she is accepted. so the new member has a better idea of our rules and regualtion. i know that when i am getting a person to join eGO, i usually talk to them in vent to get them through the process of signing up and going over some things. I know as an admin that there are a few e's that it seems we are telling rules to them everyday
 
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