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Job seekers getting asked for Facebook passwords
Resume, references, password: Job seekers get asked in interviews to provide Facebook logins
Associated PressBy Manuel Valdes, Associated Press | Associated Press ? 3 hours ago

SEATTLE (AP) -- When Justin Bassett interviewed for a new job, he expected the usual questions about experience and references. So he was astonished when the interviewer asked for something else: his Facebook username and password.

Bassett, a New York City statistician, had just finished answering a few character questions when the interviewer turned to her computer to search for his Facebook page. But she couldn't see his private profile. She turned back and asked him to hand over his login information.

Bassett refused and withdrew his application, saying he didn't want to work for a company that would seek such personal information. But as the job market steadily improves, other job candidates are confronting the same question from prospective employers, and some of them cannot afford to say no.

In their efforts to vet applicants, some companies and government agencies are going beyond merely glancing at a person's social networking profiles and instead asking to log in as the user to have a look around.

"It's akin to requiring someone's house keys," said Orin Kerr, a George Washington University law professor and former federal prosecutor who calls it "an egregious privacy violation."

Questions have been raised about the legality of the practice, which is also the focus of proposed legislation in Illinois and Maryland that would forbid public agencies from asking for access to social networks.

Since the rise of social networking, it has become common for managers to review publically available Facebook profiles, Twitter accounts and other sites to learn more about job candidates. But many users, especially on Facebook, have their profiles set to private, making them available only to selected people or certain networks.

Companies that don't ask for passwords have taken other steps ? such as asking applicants to friend human resource managers or to log in to a company computer during an interview. Once employed, some workers have been required to sign non-disparagement agreements that ban them from talking negatively about an employer on social media.

Asking for a candidate's password is more prevalent among public agencies, especially those seeking to fill law enforcement positions such as police officers or 911 dispatchers.

Back in 2010, Robert Collins was returning to his job as a security guard at the Maryland Department of Public Safety and Correctional Services after taking a leave following his mother's death. During a reinstatement interview, he was asked for his login and password, purportedly so the agency could check for any gang affiliations. He was stunned by the request but complied.

"I needed my job to feed my family. I had to," he recalled,

After the ACLU complained about the practice, the agency amended its policy, asking instead for job applicants to log in during interviews.

"To me, that's still invasive. I can appreciate the desire to learn more about the applicant, but it's still a violation of people's personal privacy," said Collins, whose case inspired Maryland's legislation.

Until last year, the city of Bozeman, Mont., had a long-standing policy of asking job applicants for passwords to their email addresses, social-networking websites and other online accounts.

And since 2006, the McLean County, Ill., sheriff's office has been one of several Illinois sheriff's departments that ask applicants to sign into social media sites to be screened.

Chief Deputy Rusty Thomas defended the practice, saying applicants have a right to refuse. But no one has ever done so. Thomas said that "speaks well of the people we have apply."

When asked what sort of material would jeopardize job prospects, Thomas said "it depends on the situation" but could include "inappropriate pictures or relationships with people who are underage, illegal behavior."

In Spotsylvania County, Va., the sheriff's department asks applicants to friend background investigators for jobs at the 911 dispatch center and for law enforcement positions.

"In the past, we've talked to friends and neighbors, but a lot of times we found that applicants interact more through social media sites than they do with real friends," said Capt. Mike Harvey. "Their virtual friends will know more about them than a person living 30 yards away from them."

Harvey said investigators look for any "derogatory" behavior that could damage the agency's reputation.

E. Chandlee Bryan, a career coach and co-author of the book "The Twitter Job Search Guide," said job seekers should always be aware of what's on their social media sites and assume someone is going to look at it.

Bryan said she is troubled by companies asking for logins, but she feels it's not a violation if an employer asks to see a Facebook profile through a friend request. And she's not troubled by non-disparagement agreements.

"I think that when you work for a company, they are essentially supporting you in exchange for your work. I think if you're dissatisfied, you should go to them and not on a social media site," she said.

More companies are also using third-party applications to scour Facebook profiles, Bryan said. One app called BeKnown can sometimes access personal profiles, short of wall messages, if a job seeker allows it.

Sears is one of the companies using apps. An applicant has the option of logging into the Sears job site through Facebook by allowing a third-party application to draw information from the profile, such as friend lists.

Sears Holdings Inc. spokeswoman Kim Freely said using a Facebook profile to apply allows Sears to be updated on the applicant's work history.

The company assumes "that people keep their social profiles updated to the minute, which allows us to consider them for other jobs in the future or for ones that they may not realize are available currently," she said.

Giving out Facebook login information violates the social network's terms of service. But those terms have no real legal weight, and experts say the legality of asking for such information remains murky.

The Department of Justice regards it as a federal crime to enter a social networking site in violation of the terms of service, but during recent congressional testimony, the agency said such violations would not be prosecuted.

But Lori Andrews, law professor at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law specializing in Internet privacy, is concerned about the pressure placed on applicants, even if they voluntarily provide access to social sites.

"Volunteering is coercion if you need a job," Andrews said.

Neither Facebook nor Twitter responded to repeated requests for comment.

In New York, Bassett considered himself lucky that he was able to turn down the consulting gig at a lobbying firm.

"I think asking for account login credentials is regressive," he said. "If you need to put food on the table for your three kids, you can't afford to stand up for your belief."
 
I saw this coming 5 miles away... Personal social networking websites probably hold more personal background information on an individual than what a normal background investigation would produce. I personally have no problem "friending" fellow employees/supervisors. But asking for log-in information during an interview is simply intrusive.
 
This is why I deleted my Facebook account last week. These days people expect you to have Facebook as some kind of citizen ID kind of thing so that they can track you, which makes me think of those dystopian novels like 1984.
 
Same, I deleted my face book because I don't want to have to deal with things like this.
 
This is why I deleted my Facebook account last week. These days people expect you to have Facebook as some kind of citizen ID kind of thing so that they can track you, which makes me think of those dystopian novels like 1984.


So true
 
I will also be deleting my facebook account when I get back out into the job market, but for now its there.
 
2 thoughts about this:

1) No they shouldn't be allowed to ask for that. I certainly wouldn't provide it.

2) Flip Side: If there are things on your Facebook page that would embarrass you or cost you a job, why would you put them on facebook in the first place? Do you not understand how the internet works?
 
2 thoughts about this:

1) No they shouldn't be allowed to ask for that. I certainly wouldn't provide it.

2) Flip Side: If there are things on your Facebook page that would embarrass you or cost you a job, why would you put them on facebook in the first place? Do you not understand how the internet works?

Number 2 makes a great point.
 
2 thoughts about this:
2) Flip Side: If there are things on your Facebook page that would embarrass you or cost you a job, why would you put them on facebook in the first place? Do you not understand how the internet works?

That was the secondary reason I deleted mine. As far as I know I had nothing stupid on my Facebook, but couldn't be too sure if something could come back to haunt me.
 
2 thoughts about this:

1) No they shouldn't be allowed to ask for that. I certainly wouldn't provide it.

2) Flip Side: If there are things on your Facebook page that would embarrass you or cost you a job, why would you put them on facebook in the first place? Do you not understand how the internet works?

Well it's facebook so you don't necessarily have to have embarrassing stuff but sometimes your friends post things that aren't going to impress your employer. I mean I am still only 24 so sometimes me and my buddies might get drunk and they would snap a pick of me passed out all over the place. Maybe when you are 30+ that kinda stuff stops happening but at my age it's all over facebook, not something you would want an employer to see. Employers can also judge you by association, I have friends that would be considered shady and not altogether "good" people by society because of the way they dress or behave, I don't want that to reflect whether I qualify for a job or not.
 
The company has no right to ask him for that information and I think he did the right thing on declining working there.
 
Well it's facebook so you don't necessarily have to have embarrassing stuff but sometimes your friends post things that aren't going to impress your employer. I mean I am still only 24 so sometimes me and my buddies might get drunk and they would snap a pick of me passed out all over the place. Maybe when you are 30+ that kinda stuff stops happening but at my age it's all over facebook, not something you would want an employer to see. Employers can also judge you by association, I have friends that would be considered shady and not altogether "good" people by society because of the way they dress or behave, I don't want that to reflect whether I qualify for a job or not.

There are privacy settings you can set though. If anyone tags me in anything I have it set so that I have to approve it before it posts on my wall.

I mean no that doesn't happen to me, but for other reasons than what we're talking about. This would go into a discussion of how you live your life and what choices you are and are not making, which is not rules appropriate. Nor am I one to impose on other people how to live their lives lol.

I get what you're saying though. Looks like Facebook is "fighting" back against this a bit so I guess we'll see what happens.
 
i find this ridiculous, thats like someone asking someone to the keys for your house because they want to learn what kind of cereal you eat
 
Facebook has made a comment on CNN that this is against Facebook privacy rules.


Facebook asking for your password or for you to friend the HR person is a violation of not only your rights but your friends as well. As such, any company that asks for your password or for you to friend them, is opening themselves up for a law suit.
 
Facebook has made a comment on CNN that this is against Facebook privacy rules.


Facebook asking for your password or for you to friend the HR person is a violation of not only your rights but your friends as well. As such, any company that asks for your password or for you to friend them, is opening themselves up for a law suit.

Yahoo had the same news. I also made the comment,
"You know it's a breach of privacy when Facebook is saying it's a bad idea..." :P

FYI: There's a law in the making, making such inquiries illegal and punishable with a fine; I think it's $1500 for the first offense, and $2500 for every offense thereafter. For the big companies, that's a slap on the wrist. For smaller companies or stores, that can be harmful. But I've a feeling that big corporations are the ones that do this most often...
 
Yahoo had the same news. I also made the comment,
"You know it's a breach of privacy when Facebook is saying it's a bad idea..." :P

FYI: There's a law in the making, making such inquiries illegal and punishable with a fine; I think it's $1500 for the first offense, and $2500 for every offense thereafter. For the big companies, that's a slap on the wrist. For smaller companies or stores, that can be harmful. But I've a feeling that big corporations are the ones that do this most often...

It's about time that a law is made. And there are several reasons why it should be made illegal. I agree that it's gonna hurt small businesses but it really needs to be done. And a lot of small slaps will still hurt a big company after a while. Not only will the fines add up but word will get out that they are asking for that and people will boycott or not apply and they will lose some good candidates.
 
That's just wrong. It seems privacy is just a joke these days.

I don't think I have anything on my Facebook that could potentially lose me a job, but I still wouldn't hand over my info.

This should be a reminder to people about what they post on Facebook. Unless you're comfortable with the world seeing, don't post it. Facebook collects everything you put on Facebook so they know what ads to put in the sidebar. I wouldn't be surprised if they keep a record of everything you do on there.

I put fake information on there as a joke, such as where I graduated and worked. I'm thinking of just leaving it like that.
 
Even if you have a very conservative facebook page, you could be looked over for a job because they see that you graduated in the 60s and won't be with the company long. That would violate Equal Opportunity Employment laws because of age discrimination. So just because your page may not have anything that appears to be innocent, doesn't mean you should hand you password over. I wouldn't just because it violates all sorts of privacy laws.
 

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