64 slots?
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I'm already seeing regulars leaving the server. I mostly see unknowns now and CTs r always have upper hand. Most regulars who r leaving the server are the once who play T and they are good players. If the trend continues then this server might suffer.
Today morning there were only like 20-24 players on the server for a long time as people are beginning to hate the increase and use of para. Please restrict the number of para people can buy or reduce the $$$$ to around $5 by default so that people cant buy para all the time. But please change the current Status quo.
Today morning there were only like 20-24 players on the server for a long time as people are beginning to hate the increase and use of para. Please restrict the number of para people can buy or reduce the $$$$ to around $5 by default so that people cant buy para all the time. But please change the current Status quo.
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Anti-Team Flash could be a potential solution to the insane amounts of flashes.
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=1313543
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=1313543
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ok I'm only gonna make one comment
I can see a lot of pubbers are in a uproar
I personally think it wasn't a bad idea at all to up the slots for whatever reason
although I do agree there could of been some kind of notice or warning a little a head of time
seeing as most people don't like change especially sudden changes and I think is part of the reason there's such a uproar that being said as far as most of the agreements and debates going back and forth I personally don't have a dog in this fight but I will say that I'm sick and tired of seeing every time there's a disagreement that the Para or m249 is always thrown into the mix and people calling other's Para Noob's and Para whores or Para rushers or whatever it might be the Para is a gun just like any other gun it has it's strength and weakness it's good short range but sucks long range
and the gun is part of the game and always has been just like the ak 47 or scout or m4 or awp and I know seeing as I been playing since original beta days in 97 98
and I'm sure that the makers and modelers and yes I said modelers cause counter strike started as a mod (OH MY GOD REALLY ?? GASPS) but I'm sure there's a reason the put it in the game AND HAS BEEN THERE EVER SINCE ! cause they knew what the hell they were doing as it was and still is a good gun
ya'll wanta remove or restrict the Para's why don't ya'll go and petition valve or steam to remove it from the game if ya'll feel so strongly bout the issue and see how far ya get
on that note I personally HATE the ak47 the m4 the scout and the shotgun or what I call the noob canyon but ya don't see me arguing bout oh it's unfair or too good or too accurate and should be removed or restricted I might give a player a hard time but I leave it at that especially if I can tell it upsets them and I have seen on multiple occasions that the t's will spawn a ton of nothing but ak47's and will be nothing but aks on one team I don't have a problem with that and I don't make such a fuss about it heck I myself will even use a ak47 or a m4 or a shotgun from time to time to even the score (OH MY GOSH NO REALLY) and to each it's own I think if 20 people want to use a Para they should be able to without fear of ridicule or harassment by those that dislike it
point blank it if ya don't like it move on or drop it and no I don't mean leave cause I think we all should be able to GET ALONG or at least learn to agree to disagree and leave it alone
but unfortunately some if not most of ya'll don't know how to seeing as ya'll keep coming back to complain bout the same ol' thing
I'm begging ya'll NO I'M PLEDDING WITH YA'LL PLEASE JUST DROP IT YOUR WASTING HOT AIR
oh and on the smokes and flashes yes there a very big nuisance too and do kinda think wouldn't hurt to restrict one flash per player and possibly remove the smokes altogether
but than again like said above I'm not gonna make a big dispute over it
I'm sure ric and the rest of leadership does everything they do with the best of intentions
KAMI OUT
oh btw those that really want to know or care here's the true history of the M249 aka Para
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M249_light_machine_gun
I can see a lot of pubbers are in a uproar
I personally think it wasn't a bad idea at all to up the slots for whatever reason
although I do agree there could of been some kind of notice or warning a little a head of time
seeing as most people don't like change especially sudden changes and I think is part of the reason there's such a uproar that being said as far as most of the agreements and debates going back and forth I personally don't have a dog in this fight but I will say that I'm sick and tired of seeing every time there's a disagreement that the Para or m249 is always thrown into the mix and people calling other's Para Noob's and Para whores or Para rushers or whatever it might be the Para is a gun just like any other gun it has it's strength and weakness it's good short range but sucks long range
and the gun is part of the game and always has been just like the ak 47 or scout or m4 or awp and I know seeing as I been playing since original beta days in 97 98
and I'm sure that the makers and modelers and yes I said modelers cause counter strike started as a mod (OH MY GOD REALLY ?? GASPS) but I'm sure there's a reason the put it in the game AND HAS BEEN THERE EVER SINCE ! cause they knew what the hell they were doing as it was and still is a good gun
ya'll wanta remove or restrict the Para's why don't ya'll go and petition valve or steam to remove it from the game if ya'll feel so strongly bout the issue and see how far ya get
on that note I personally HATE the ak47 the m4 the scout and the shotgun or what I call the noob canyon but ya don't see me arguing bout oh it's unfair or too good or too accurate and should be removed or restricted I might give a player a hard time but I leave it at that especially if I can tell it upsets them and I have seen on multiple occasions that the t's will spawn a ton of nothing but ak47's and will be nothing but aks on one team I don't have a problem with that and I don't make such a fuss about it heck I myself will even use a ak47 or a m4 or a shotgun from time to time to even the score (OH MY GOSH NO REALLY) and to each it's own I think if 20 people want to use a Para they should be able to without fear of ridicule or harassment by those that dislike it
point blank it if ya don't like it move on or drop it and no I don't mean leave cause I think we all should be able to GET ALONG or at least learn to agree to disagree and leave it alone
but unfortunately some if not most of ya'll don't know how to seeing as ya'll keep coming back to complain bout the same ol' thing
I'm begging ya'll NO I'M PLEDDING WITH YA'LL PLEASE JUST DROP IT YOUR WASTING HOT AIR
oh and on the smokes and flashes yes there a very big nuisance too and do kinda think wouldn't hurt to restrict one flash per player and possibly remove the smokes altogether
but than again like said above I'm not gonna make a big dispute over it
I'm sure ric and the rest of leadership does everything they do with the best of intentions
KAMI OUT
oh btw those that really want to know or care here's the true history of the M249 aka Para
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M249_light_machine_gun
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My humble thoughts on possible changes:
Restrict Paras to 8 per team. Possibly just randomly assign 8 Paras to each team so it's not a contest to see who can buy first?
Allow AWPs to help counter, but restrict to 2 or 4 per team. Possibly also randomly assign those to each team?
Restrict flashbangs to 1 per player. 64 per round is already going to be excessive.
Restrict smoke grenades to 8 per team? They last a while and though useful, spamming them causes pure chaos across the entire map.
If you don't have one in place, maybe add a mod so that you can only buy the specific number of grenades each round? That way there's no grenade rebuying/griefing like that.
Those are my ideas and thoughts. I know people whine about the AWP, but allowing a handful of them on a 64-player server is for the best. The auto snipers, however, would be entirely OP in this case.
Restrict Paras to 8 per team. Possibly just randomly assign 8 Paras to each team so it's not a contest to see who can buy first?
Allow AWPs to help counter, but restrict to 2 or 4 per team. Possibly also randomly assign those to each team?
Restrict flashbangs to 1 per player. 64 per round is already going to be excessive.
Restrict smoke grenades to 8 per team? They last a while and though useful, spamming them causes pure chaos across the entire map.
If you don't have one in place, maybe add a mod so that you can only buy the specific number of grenades each round? That way there's no grenade rebuying/griefing like that.
Those are my ideas and thoughts. I know people whine about the AWP, but allowing a handful of them on a 64-player server is for the best. The auto snipers, however, would be entirely OP in this case.
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Saying this as respectfully as possible but your logic is completely wrong. I point this out because I know that majority are thinking along the same lines. First of all in comparison to the competitive aspect of css, scrims are 5v5 not 30v30, So that alone invalidates that argument. Second, if rounds started with the $800 default cash limit then we wouldn't even be having this issue as the m249 costs some $5k. Third, m249s are as accurate as AKs making it essentially long range weapon, aka "the 100 round scout".
With that mentality, we should enable awps and autos as they are also "part of the game". Oh and keep the buy time at 90 seconds as well since that was too the default intended period by valve.
Please stop associating this server to any other game mode. Just as jailbreak or Zombieescape, there is nothing similar to compare with.
I like this, but even reducing it to only 20-30 flashes per team could make it better. A big problem is that you just can't see at all during the first minute of the round.
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you're right. we tried this before, 64 =more lag, more para spam = more lag, people leave. change back to 48.
endless cycle because we don't learn from our mistakes. goodjob.
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Just a couple more representative scoreboards at the end of a round:
This one shows that 30 T's only managed to kill 13 CT's:
This one shows 18 players still alive at the end of the round:
30-40s ping on a 64 slot server? nice ping
I'm not too much of dust2 fanatic due to me being allergic of anything sand related (looking at you Gaara) but its a proven fact that CTS in dust2 like the para way too much. 3,200 bullets being sprayed randomly into a smoke that covers a somewhat small portion of a narrow area is bound to kill a hell of a lot of Ts. Hell if I were a T, I would just give up and stop buying anything except for kelvar + helmet and start trying to knife them. Low success rate but way more fun then being shot in the head by a random bullet while holding an ak.
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Man, I wonder who changed the server to 64 player? You would think there would be some kind of a discussion right? Nope, there wasn't. It just suddenly popped up.
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Kami, Respectfully i have disagree with your point and your logic fails on Dust 2 server, if you play T side more often on dust 2 then you would understand. Para is one of the more powerful gun and is very accurate even at long range as long as you know how to use it. When 60+ flashes going off on your face and more than 20 paras being sprayed there in no chance in HELL for Ts to win and wikipedia link?? Really??
Also please don't be sarcastic while making comments then others will also be sarcastic towards you.
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I like Kim's way of thinking
that's one of the problem sometimes everyone's always worried bout there score rank and who's winning
learn to sit back relax CHILL and have fun and play the game
I have way more fun trying to knife someone or no scope someone than when I'm all tense and actually trying and seem to better half the time in long run
RELAX AND ENJOY THE GAME AND REMEBER IT'S ALWAYS JUST A GAME
btw to add to my earlier post I'm not trying to say do or don't restrict Para's
I'm just trying to point out fact that the Para is ALWAYS singled out of all the guns one could possibly use
unlike scouts ak's and what not it never fails if there's even one or 2 Para's on any server someone is always gonna complain it's the culprit to the game play
regardless of if it's restricted or to how many someone will always argue and disagree
"You can please some people some of the time you can't please everyone all the time" fact of life
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Hey Kami if you play T regularly on dust2 you would understand. CTs but Para and spray at choke point from the beginning till the end of the round and it's true especially with increased number. If Ts still decide to rush then they have to deal with more than 30 flashes and 4/5 paras and everytime Ts get destroyed. People loose interest in the objective when they keep loosing and as a result they camp or bait. Try playing T for few hrs on dust 2 and you will see what I mean. Also try knifing a CT 
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Thanks C, it was a great job! The increase in slots has increased our traffic and server popularity!
Just because we have a small handful of people who don't like the change, or expect leadership to ask them for permissions, doesn't mean the changes were a bad idea. All the players I've spoken to, none of them have experienced lag.
If you don't like these changes, come talk us in Teamspeak. This goes to everyone involved in this topic!
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Im not sure, for a while i thought the modifier was for damage, but it may also be for the amount of points you get per kill. Instead of doing more damage, you get more points for para kills. Maybe if people were getting fewer points they would try to use the other guns availabile a little more. If the damage gets reduced i wouldnt mind that either.
