...Scout update is Spy update in disguise. *Massive conspiracy warning.*

I believe it is the scout update and not a conspiracy, but since i was bored, i noticed this as well. Clearly valve hasnt really bothered to do all the little details this time...

As you can see, for the heavy and medic, there have been little arrows for the download, but not for scout. While im at it, also notice the colour of the backgrounds, its to dark...
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In no way do i think that the scout update is a fake, im just giving some more input... but it would be awesome if we had spy.
 
Seriously, these small details that have changed on the TF2 site can't be used as evidence of a conspiracy. They are just aesthetic changes. As for the missing TM, it is missing on the official TF2 site as well.
 
Phoenix Wright said:
And if they DO pull it off, I totally called it.
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You are not the first to make this suggestion, so no, you didn't "call" it.

As for your theories:

Reasons 1, 2, and 3 are based solely on cosmetic changes, wich if that is a reason for conspiricy, there are 1000's of conspiricies in everything.

The Sandman model, is a different model. Not just a reskin. Wich is the same for every other weapon for TF2's unlockables. Him holding it the same way as he did the other bat means they are just reusing animation. Wich they did for Natascha, Backburner, Axetinguisher, Ubersaw and so on.

In one of your "reasons" for it being a spy update, you claim Valve does a lot of these things because they like to be as lazy as possable. So why make a new can model for BONK! if they already have one at thier disposal?

Your biased against the Egypt map is obvious, it shouldn't even be used in an argument, so I won't bother taking too long to counter-point. I hate Turbine. A lot. (Yes I went there) Doens't mean they didn't add it. As for it fitting style, sure it isn't in Nevada Desert or the mountains, but it still has the freehanded stylized look of Team Fortress 2, so I welcome it. You forget, in the TF2 mythos, they have bases all over the world. (ironically usually 60 feet from each other)

Again, why make a new model for a can they have already.

You say they won't add new animations because they are lazy as possable. I suggest you start up TF2, go to the Commentary section, pick Well, and run around until you find the node that explains where your taunts came from.

Again, the baseball is purely cosmetic. Just because they are being lazy with thier display page doesn't mean its fake. Honestly, only those looking for flaws are going to freak out over a rotated/scaled picture of a baseball.

Since everyone can make achievment Icons, including Valve, why is that an argument? Did someone else make the page? No. It was Valve. Wich means if it were fake or not, Icons would have been made, making your point moot.

For reason 11. Read thier blog. 2 letters and a number for you, L 4 D.

You are right, it would be epic if it were really a spy update in disguise. And yes, Valve can be pretty lazy, yes, Egypt isnt the best map ever. But these are not support for a theory proving it. If they were going to make it a fake update, they would do everything they could to hide the fact, not foster clues. If they didn't someone (you in this case) would attempt to spill the secret, and soften the epic impact the update would have had on the community.

Sorry for pouring lava on your parade (rain is for wussies).

Finally a side note. If they were going to do an "Update is a Spy" thing, they will do it while using the engineer as the fall-guy. It fits too much in the TF2 mainstream for it to be anything else.
 
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its not going to be the spy is going to be the 10th class as seen in L4D!!!!!


and an other thing valve doesn't have to make anything it all could be some drawings or art work. they don't have to make anything
 
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Yeah.. Kraken just totally crushed all spy update hopeful's dreams.. and i agree with his points haha.. Nice job Kraken!
 
I find it really hillareous.

I would hope that they use Kracken's idea; whilst Engie is my favorite class and I'd hate for my classes' update to be a spy, it would be so... freakin... epic.

If they did it, they'd piss off a lot of people. They'd have to make it more obvious and/or have an Engie pack ready.

In fact, the whole Engineer/Spy contention is so tight, you almost need to have back-to-back-packs in order to not completely destroy one class or another.

But this is neither here nor there.

As for the graphic design, I've done graphic design before, and if I weren't wearing my tinfoil hat because it's fun, I'd say that their Graphic Design Gurus have been super busy lately with all the cool stuffs Valve has been making and when they got the scout update page, they kinda went to lunch a little bit.

Finally, the opposite of "anti-aliasing" is "aliasing" :D Make it easy on yo'self.
 
Phoenix Wright said:
8. The stunned effect doesn't follow TF2's style at all. Neither does Egypt. Also, they'll have to reanimate every class to have a stunned animation. And Valve likes to be as lazy as possible.
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You just ruined your own argument.

If Valve likes to be as lazy as possible (which I wholeheartedly agree with) why would they put this effort into it?
 
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Interesting theory but I don't think that the maps can count as evidence for this. I doubt Valve would tell someone that their map was so good they are making it official, then say it was all for a joke. Even if it turns out to be a Spy update I think we're still getting Egypt, watchtower and Junction.
 
Wow you may have some good points here... If this really is a spy update then you are totally amazing. We'll just have to see. When is the scout update suppose to release?
 
kdub wB said:
Wow you may have some good points here... If this really is a spy update then you are totally amazing. We'll just have to see. When is the scout update suppose to release?
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Judging by the information release dates on the site, probably Tuesday or Wednesday.
 
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