Jail map concept

Wyald

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As I said in my recruitment post, I'd like to make a jail map. Normally, I'd get to work on it, but I have kind of a weird idea that strays from the rest of the maps. The idea is, instead of a jail, it would be a corporate office building during a hostage crisis. The main room would be a conference auditorium, with side storage rooms and what have you instead of cells. There would probably be about 5 spawns per side room, but I'm sure I can make it so that the T's arn't all bunched up. I want to make the main room and side rooms enclosed in a bigger room, with catwalks for the CT's to use. This is hard to explain exactly, so I'll provide an image.

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Little disclaimer: This example was made in about 20 minutes while writing this post. It does not represent the layout of the actual map when I make it, nor does it represent my abilities as a level designer.

Obviously, I would make it a little more balanced than what the image shows, but you get the idea. I have some cool ideas to randomly let some T's escape (not every round), and to make sure that the CT's can't just look into the rooms and do a head count. All the other areas of a basic jail map would be there. Instead of a armory, there would be a security station. Instead of a exercise yard, there would be a corporate exercise room, probably with racket ball courts. The doors will all be electronically locked, so the T's can't just open the door and run out.

Anyways, as I was saying, the theme is very different from any jail map I've played on. I'd like some opinions and a general yes or no on the concept before I devote any time to it. I have other ideas for actual jails that I can work on.
 
it's a great idea but as you say it's a hostages situation so maybe the t's should be the wardens considering the fact i can't see ct's take t's hostages.

would look really nice tho
 
Alright, as long as nobody has any objections to the theme, I'll get started.

it's a great idea but as you say it's a hostages situation so maybe the t's should be the wardens considering the fact i can't see ct's take t's hostages.

Think 'Metal Gear Solid'. In that game, soldiers took their own people hostage. Imagine the T's as the security force that didn't want to go along with the hostage thing. Or maybe the T's were a mercenary group hired on for extra protection, and the company didn't expect their own security force to try and steal their secret research or something? And the T's have to furfill their contractual obligations and figure out a way to bring the CT's down.

I'm fricken Tom Clancy here.
 
I think this sounds cool, but my suggestion is that you make the office part look clean and normal, and the catwalks and other fortifications or whatever look hurried or industrial, like it was added by the CTs after they invaded..

If it doesn't make sense, I can try and clarify my thoughts.. I guess.
 
Sounds like an awesome idea, great to see some initiative and new ideas being put in the open. However, PLEASE follow the typical jail rules, I.e. CTs are wardens, there are various activities in the map, etc.
It'd would cause wayyy to much confusion, playing on a normal jail map then RTVing to this map with different rules to learn.
 
Good idea, I really like the idea of a few T's randomly escaping every couple rounds. But follow what Existence said about not doing a complete overhaul of the jail system, that would be really confusing with all the new rules and such.
 
dont listen to these other fools, make the map how you want without limitations! just make it G rated so i dont have to kill you verbally
 
I think you'll find that when you play it, it'll be much like a regular jail map. Just rethemed into an office building. So don't worry about new rules and whatnot. I think the whole hostage thing fits the server better than jail anyways. Considering how the CT's are always randomly murdering things for fun.

About the G rated thing. This is a hostage situation, after all. Is everyone cool with some dead bodies and blood?
 
I think you'll find that when you play it, it'll be much like a regular jail map. Just rethemed into an office building. So don't worry about new rules and whatnot. I think the whole hostage thing fits the server better than jail anyways. Considering how the CT's are always randomly murdering things for fun.

About the G rated thing. This is a hostage situation, after all. Is everyone cool with some dead bodies and blood?

Are they in CSS if so I think your ok.
 
Are they in CSS if so I think your ok.

In the screenshot, theres a projection screen type thing on the stage. This is where I expect the CT's will have the T's stand to begin their random unjustified murderings. I wanted to create a custom decal that says 'They're not coming', written in blood on the screen. Incase you were wondering, it refers to any rescue that the hostages were hoping for.

It's kind of funny, though. It's a G rated server, but I see sprays all over the place that would make a movie PG-13. Just saying.

Anyways, I got some really great ideas. I'll post a floor plan as soon as I can.
 
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In the screenshot, theres a projection screen type thing on the stage. This is where I expect the CT's will have the T's stand to begin their random unjustified murderings. I wanted to create a custom decal that says 'They're not coming', written in blood on the screen. Incase you were wondering, it refers to any rescue that the hostages were hoping for.

It's kind of funny, though. It's a G rated server, but I see sprays all over the place that would make a movie PG-13. Just saying.

Anyways, I got some really great ideas. I'll post a floor plan as soon as I can.

I've always wondered, can you make maps on which some cts appear as hostages, all terrorists are covering all entrances, and some cts try to rescue the hostages? It would be a cs_ map but with actual people acting as hostages. :O
 
I've always wondered, can you make maps on which some cts appear as hostages, all terrorists are covering all entrances, and some cts try to rescue the hostages? It would be a cs_ map but with actual people acting as hostages. :O

In the old CS, there was this game mode called VIP. One person was the VIP, he got like 200 armor and a usp, and the CT's tried to get him to a helicopter or something. I believe the mode was implemented into CSS by a third party team. It required a game update by Valve to make it work.

Otherwise, you can put CT spawns in a room without a buy zone, and have the doors locked and only openable from the outside. Then you can put a regular CT spawn with a buy zone and have those guys play regularly. The only problem is, theres no real way to tell how many CT's will spawn as hostages and how many will spawn as rescuers.

Edit: Oh yeah, you'd also have to put a strip weapon entity or whatever that ones called for the CT's that are hostages.
 
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In the old CS, there was this game mode called VIP. One person was the VIP, he got like 200 armor and a usp, and the CT's tried to get him to a helicopter or something. I believe the mode was implemented into CSS by a third party team. It required a game update by Valve to make it work.

Otherwise, you can put CT spawns in a room without a buy zone, and have the doors locked and only openable from the outside. Then you can put a regular CT spawn with a buy zone and have those guys play regularly. The only problem is, theres no real way to tell how many CT's will spawn as hostages and how many will spawn as rescuers.

Edit: Oh yeah, you'd also have to put a strip weapon entity or whatever that ones called for the CT's that are hostages.

I used to love being VIP in that game. hahaha, so cool ^^
:O , I would love to have a game with CTs as hostages. It would be so cool and they can escape and whatever. ^^
 
okay i used to LOVE vip maps so much fun as_oilrig was my favorite
 

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