Our Dustbowl server..

[An_Idiot_Blooming]

I made a thread regarding this issue shortly after I joined eGO and I feel the need again to bring this issue to the attention of the clan even though I'm sure all of us who play on it are aware of it.

WE NEED A BETTER METHOD TO BALANCE TEAMS.

I joined the server about a half an hour ago to relax after studying for a final I have tomorrow and I have disconnected in more frustration then when I began.

In the half hour I played on the server I saw:

-people switching teams to be on the winning team, including members of eGO which is entirely disheartening

-too many people rage quitting

-disrespect toward other players with zero discipline by the admins in the server

-one team getting pummeled round after round and no one attempting do anything to fix it, but rather hinder it, as stated above

-people joining spectator to force an autobalance and then join the opposite team

With that said... why would I want to play on the eGO Dustbowl server?

There was a time I played in the server for hours but can hardly stand to be in it for more than an hour because of these same reoccurring conditions over and over and over.

The teams are severely unbalanced over 90% of the time and nothing is being done about it.

This raises tension and unruly behaviour in our server.

Can we please take a more serious look at this issue?

I know my desire to play on this server is near zero and I can't be the only person who feels this way.

I joined this clan because I like the people I play with and the servers we played on... but lately it seems the issue of team balancing on the Dustbowl server is severely out of hand.

Am I alone?

I don't mean this to point fingers or come off as angry, but to address the problem and try to fix it instead of creating a thread and having it get lost in the dust with lackluster excuses as to why it's not/can't be fixed or trying to say everything is okay.

 

[Cl!FF]

WE NEED A BETTER METHOD TO BALANCE TEAMS.

-people switching teams to be on the winning team, including members of eGO which is entirely disheartening

I do switch sides these last few weeks, but usually that is because after the rollings, I communicate with the admins, seeing if they need help. If they need, I have no problems to switch sides. Just trying to maintain a little more balance this way.

-disrespect toward other players with zero discipline by the admins in the server

Do you mean admins disrespecting players?
Or players being disrespectful against admins?
What do you mean?

We already are questioning this in the eGO private sections, we are still working on a good solution

 

[jshotzz]

I think gardengrove suggested raging as a dirty solution.

 

[Gnarkill]

I agree on some points, to many people change team to be on the winning team, its like common people! I know some admins are very helpful and change team when its all going one way, and I really appreciate cause thats what I mean eGO is about, I don't know about ragequiting though, havent experienced much of that when 'Im on. : D

I also hate people who go in spectator to balance the teams so they can join the winning team!

 

[spoolinEvolution]

The worst thing I've noticed which you have also mentioned, is people forcing the autobalance by switching to spec.. this happens constantly. It's pretty annoying and infuriating that someone would cheat the system in such a way. Also as soon as a slot opens up on the winning team a person will switch sides instantly... INSTANTLY. Which is pretty sad and frustrating when you are trying to work with an already struggling team...

You are right, sometimes admins are even guilty of doing this. Which may keep people from coming back to play. I mean if the clan members who are supposed to show fairness and not exploiting the way the game is played keep on doing that, people will not deal with it. They may never return..


Another huge problem... class limits.
Sometimes someone will suggest something like "Hey lets heavy rush" "All go pyro" etc.. When this catches on and people start listening they follow along. The bad thing about this is that it's almost "impossible" to stop an attack of that kind. It's kind of cheating the game and sort of breaks the rules about exploiting the way it should be played. A team is most times rolled as a result of this. On the egypt server once, we had someone suggesting everyone go engineer.. we had 12 engineers on our team. Needless to say no one made it to the last point. Even with like 20 ubers or whatever..

Worse is that this happens on many servers, not just eGO servers..

 

[Candlejack]

If an entire team goes pyro and wins, that's not a problem with class limits it's a problem with the other team. Everyone going one class pretty much makes the team weaker and easier to stop unless the other team has no idea what they're doing, so class limits shouldn't be enforced.
Besides, who doesn't like a chain of ubers?

 

[A Blind Man Schmidt]

I have to say....back when my laptop was still functional and i was active on the server i would join random team first in....if there are tons of complaints and the other team is just getting pounded round after round I will switch it up just to try and help...as for other players there is no real way to enforce it and its sad....

 

[FreakingHell]

Class limits would be BAD. Every class rush can be countered. Class rushes are a legitimate tactic.

 

[Retribution]

I agree in that there shouldn't be class limits, and as Cliff said, a bunch of admins try their hardest to make the game a fair one.
However, I do know that admins can get cocky, or get caught up in the game and not really care who is saying what. But, a lot of times, I don't even have to admin since before I can say anything in admin chat about 3 admins have already said "I got him." So I think it really depends on who the admin is. I have seen some admins go out of their way to even teams, and I've seen admins who couldn't care less who is getting rolled. But if you see an admin doing something like this, I would go to an eGO and tell him/her what's going on.

 

[FreakingHell]

The difference I make when switching is so minimal, but I do it anyways.

 

[spoolinEvolution]

Yeah I know what you mean. There should be any number of class available but when people abuse it, the game gets out of control. 8 heavies with a medic on each of them is not a fair game.

 

[FreakingHell]

Yeah I know what you mean. There should be any number of class available but when people abuse it, the game gets out of control. 8 heavies with a medic on each of them is not a fair game.

A couple of good snipers, a couple well placed sentries, a spamming demo, and a couple heavy medic combos on the other team and you've got them countered.

 

[pitchblack]

totally

 

[Joy Of Pepsi]

I don't agree with the class limits, as was said earlier, it makes the team that much weaker when they rush.

I do agree with the issue of players switching to the winning team at all costs, and it's infuriating to see 4-5 players ragequit from the losing team after each round. Not much can really be done to stop the latter, but the team switching should be taken a bit more serious.

 

[cccp]

This has been brought up many times, and here is the latest response. I kind of wish these topics would stop because I am pretty positive that this is being discussed real well in eGO and advisor level.

there has been plenty of discussion on this one already folks. the decision stands for the time being - no scramble teams...and there is no set time frame for us to have something back to replace it. we've worked for years without it...it's not going to kills us not having it now ;-)


One more post behind Trykael's (Sorry, Tryk: Had to re-open....)

As referenced elsewhere, advisors and higher have the ability to issue scrambleteam commands. So, we can and will scramble teams if you feel - and we concur - the server really needs it.

You all have multiple advisors in your Steam Friends list, right?

So, here's your chance to be noticed and show your admin decision making abilities....

 

[Phoenixxx Wright]

U R AL GELUS NUBZ WH0 CANT STADN TO LOZE AN I WAN WIN SOZ I SWICH SIDZ KTYBI

That being said, it's human nature to want to win. That that being said, there's almost nothing more satisfying than completely destroying a defense and pushing through and winning a round. That that that being said, if you're being completely steamrolled and the other players are being unruly, then we need an advisor to come in and dish out some kickstick'n and team scramblin'.

 

[Quaffer]

I am neither a good nor an effective player. I have fun but my being on one side or the other does not affect the outcome of the game. That being said I always let the server pick my side for me and I never select a class with the most players playing it.

Perhaps as I play I will improve. I doesn't matter. Switching sides to be on the winning team or hiding out in spectator so the teams will shuffle because I'm not willing to try to help my own team win will never be for me.

 

[Toasteddude]

Yeah I know what you mean. There should be any number of class available but when people abuse it, the game gets out of control. 8 heavies with a medic on each of them is not a fair game.

HAHAHAHA! Try that heavy rush on when I'm on the opposite team!

Every class has got a weakness, when the entire team is one class, then you know exactly which weakness to exploit.

 

[A Blind Man Schmidt]

U R AL GELUS NUBZ WH0 CANT STADN TO LOZE AN I WAN WIN SOZ I SWICH SIDZ KTYBI

That being said, it's human nature to want to win. That that being said, there's almost nothing more satisfying than completely destroying a defense and pushing through and winning a round. That that that being said, if you're being completely steamrolled and the other players are being unruly, then we need an advisor to come in and dish out some kickstick'n and team scramblin'.

Your right it is human nature to want to win.....but the way I look at it is.....we are eGO.....why should we be steamrollin the other team especially if it is all mainly pubs....personally....I love all my eGO brothers and sisters but if i join a server where teams are both even (number of players wise) but one has more pubs then the other (even if that team is getting steamrolled)....well I wanna be on that pub team....thats good relations with fellow gamers.....just how i feel ya know

 

[Cl!FF]

The only thing how you guys can help out is to switch teams to balance things out, if an admin asks you to switch sides to help the team out, you don't have to do it, but it is highly appreciated.