discussion on jail and other things

FaTtY-mIc-FaTFaT

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hey guys, wow, i really cant believe it has been one year since i joined, really, i thought it was another 2 months or so, but omg i have been an eGO member for a year now. that is really surprising, time just slips by.

anyway, i want to discuss the point about our jail severs and other things. recently it has come to my attention that some eGO members have been acting up lately.

first and foremost, the lag. yes some maps lag and yes its annoying, but please do not spam lag in chat, especially eGO members. it makes us look bad and it also doesn't really help with the lag. so please, just do not spam lag during the lag intervals. we get it only when its close to a full sever, a full house, or some of the maps. mainly because there are so many people on. again, please do not spam lag.

moving on, there has also been members who have been questioning admins decisions on what they do. yes you may have a problem with their judgment, but absolutely never fight with the admin about them in public. it is not mature and very disrespectful to us admins. if the decision of the admin is questionable, i and my fellow admins would question them about it. i do not know how many of you know, but we admins DO have a separate chat system in which we can communicate with each other with.

and if some of you do not know, you can send us messages, by first pressing the team chat button which is usually the keyboard letter u. after that you have to press the shift button and then the number 2 on the top, which will then turn into this symbol @. (ex: press team chat button u @message to admins here. ) and we will receive the message.

now, we admins talk to our fellow admins about a certain person before we kick/ban. we NEVER kick/ban without it being discussed. we never kick/ban without reason, and we will always stay that way. so please, if you want to question our decisions, do not do so in public, ask the admin to go into vent or invite him to chat, simple as that.

next on the list, when you are killed in jail, do not spam freekill. many people do this, not the pubbers, but eGO members. now let me clear this up, yes sometimes it is a freekill and we admins sometimes miss it, so i am sorry about that. but, most of the time it would most likely have been crossfire. telling us about freekill is welcomed, so we can keep an eye on whoever is doing it, but if you are spamming in all chat AND to us in admin chat, it annoys us and makes our job more complex.

we admins have to keep an eye on the severs AT ALL TIMES. the severs fill up to 30 - 40 people everyday. now, there is usually about 2 to 4 eG's on and about 1 to 3 eGO's on. now that would make up about 7 or 8 admins on the jail severs. divide that up and there is 5 people for one admin to watch, ON AVERAGE. and that is only a quick count, usually there is not even close to 5 admins on.

so PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT SPAM COMPLAINTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. once is enough, we have at least 2 admins ALWAYS watching chat, so once or twice is enough, not 10 times, not 50 times. we have to to keep an eye on all of you and that is very hard considering jail is always hectic. don't complain about stuff that is not done quickly, we need time to look over everything. we admins are not gods, we cannot oversee everything that is happening on the severs. i didn't even mention people from other divisions that private message me over a DIFFERENT game asking for an admin for help.

many of you have never had admin, you don't know what it is like having to listen to everyone. you think if you have admin you can kick so and so, or ban so and so. that is not the case, when you guys get admin you will fully understand that having it is a responsibility that you should not take lightly.

please read this topic created by frazar - http://www.edgegamers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=80374

and also for those who do not know the rules or first timers, here is the link to the rules - http://www.edgegamers.org/forum/showthread.php?t=60548

we admins care very much about you guys and try to do our best to keep you happy.

i always try to set jail straight and have one ct talking at a time, i try to keep the teams even, and i always watch for freekillers. numerous times i have stopped playing and gone to spec to get rule breakers and the people who come in just to freekill and then leave again. i always try catch them because they might come back in under a different name and i always check each and every single player id to see who it was. in Syntax where there is a cap limit, when i see people in spec saying they cant get in, i ALWAYS open up my space and let a spec take it. i also move people around to try and get all specs into the game. i myself sit out and watch you all play.

now please do not dare tell me that we admins do not care. we care about every little thing. but you have to understand we are human and we do miss things. this is throughout all divisions, not just in counter strike source. i respect each and every player along with all the other admins, and i would expect you guys to show it back.

all i am asking

is to not question your admins in public, respect them.

do not spam freekill or anything else

and give us time to go through everything.

i do not think that is much to ask for, and it seems like many of you take us admins for granted.

thanks for reading and i hope many of you understand a little bit about what it is like being an admin.
 
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when all else fails, stop playing jail and come to dust! especially when it isn't full...that way you can contribute to the points donation for JunK charity, where you let me kill you for points!
 
Yea guys, to bounce off what he said, spamming lag makes it worse and by having eGO members do it, only give pubs more incentive to do it as well.
 
Wise words Fatty, wise words :D Gah I can't imagine what it's like to be an admin... must be pretty stressful sometimes. Seriously.
 
one thing i would want to add to this fatty is last night I saw quite a few of the e's changing the right side of their clan names and adding other clans tags to annoy them. I know you think it's funny but you all have to quit trying to be disrespectful to other clans and pubs on our servers, You are held to a higher standard, and I for one am not going to let you all slip up from now on and get away with alot of the stuff you all have been lately. I used to get straight kicked for getting out of line, and I am going to lay down the same with you all from now on if you cannot start behaving better on the jail server.
 
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o was it? i dont remember the names that well, ill fix that name then heh

meat you are right, it is only occasionally that admins to talk about it, so yes you are right on that part, and i hope in due time we do work on the lack of communications with each other.

really, i didn't think anyone would actually read through the entire thing, it is nice that people read things you take time to put down. thanks guys.
 
Thank you Fatty, as most you guys now. These days I have become more impatient and I can admit I do snap at you guys for no reason. But those reasons Fatty mentions above is why most of you guys should enjoy being e's, where your only responsibility is to be loyal to eGO.
 
and if some of you do not know, you can send us messages, by first pressing the team chat button which is usually the keyboard letter u. after that you have to press the shift button and then the number 2 on the top, which will then turn into this symbol @. (ex: press team chat button u @message to admins here. ) and we will receive the message.

Also with this, Spamming anything in admin chat will either get you a kick or a banhammer to the face. I have been seeing this admin chat spam on the rise for awhile now, and we need to stop it.
 

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