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If they do, I don't know, never played there.
EDIT: Do fake clients alter gametracker? I dunno, I'm gonna go google.
EDIT THE SECOND: Apparently, you can't get around the fake client thing, nevertheless...
Unfortunatelly there is no way to do this. But, if users report servers and it is easy to verify, we can unrank them.
So, by your logic a themed hotel is what to base your opinion of Germany on.
Thanks Calle:
Captain Calle [C2T]: "Insgesamt acht Baumh?user stehen in acht bis zehn Metern H?he im Wald des Gr?ngeringelten Abenteuerfreizeitparks."
Captain Calle [C2T]: Eight Tree houses which stand from eight to ten meters high are in the Woods of the Gr?ngeringelten Adventure park
Captain Calle [C2T]: the first and only tree house hotel in Germany
Captain Calle [C2T]: You could compare it to disney
Captain Calle [C2T]: some disney parks have themed hotels
Captain Calle [C2T]: like a wild western bar as a hotel
Hydro is easy to win, if you have some friends in a steam chat with mic all on the same team (generally if not on eGO servers I dont talk via ingame) then it's easy to uber push and ninja cap as spy.
Very enlightening.
Do you have reasons why?
I'm sure there are a few others out there, I rather enjoy hydro but not many servers offer it.
Exactly, this man hit the nail on the head.
The game doesn't always stalemate if you work together as a team. I've played when there is no teamwork, and it fails and stalemates. When all 16 players are working with each other it can get intense.
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I just love how most people complain about stalemates on Hydro while most of you can't stop playing on 2fort or Warpath.
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Now that you mention it, I haven't played TC in a long time. Also, why hasn't Valve released other TC maps? The game type has potential...
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Toasted: There are many a good tc map out there
Mainly -
Meridian: A Tropical themed custom ctf tc map (it has a giant robot :])
Others I haven't tried out are:
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/48342
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/60761 <- I had a quick 5 mins on an empty server with this one
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/65521 <- looks promising
Valve I guess haven't developed it because Hydro was their pride and joy for the first release of TF2, and it failed.
Mainly -
Meridian: A Tropical themed custom ctf tc map (it has a giant robot :])
Others I haven't tried out are:
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/48342
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/60761 <- I had a quick 5 mins on an empty server with this one
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/65521 <- looks promising
Valve I guess haven't developed it because Hydro was their pride and joy for the first release of TF2, and it failed.
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We are having a discussion about a map, server rankings and the gamemode in general, isn't that what threads are for? Huh, I dunno... sorry for wanting a discussion.
/thread cos I'm cool like that.
/thread cos I'm cool like that.
Everyone's sense of humor just curls up and dies when they're all gung-ho about something. You want serious facts? Fine then.
TC_Hydro was released by Valve over a year ago. Your much-touted hydro server is ranked 49. Everyone in the world has this map, yet there is only one server devoted to it. The most anyone has played on it is 193 hours.
For comparison: CP_BlackMesa was finished earlier this year. Our Blackmesa server is ranked 64. People have to choose to download this map to play on it. The most played here is 550 hours (Goretex).
What this means:
TC_Hydro has a huge install base, but very few users who don't use it very much. If there was enough of a clamor for it, new servers would've opened by now as it would take no effort at all to get one running.
TC_Hydro was released by Valve over a year ago. Your much-touted hydro server is ranked 49. Everyone in the world has this map, yet there is only one server devoted to it. The most anyone has played on it is 193 hours.
For comparison: CP_BlackMesa was finished earlier this year. Our Blackmesa server is ranked 64. People have to choose to download this map to play on it. The most played here is 550 hours (Goretex).
What this means:
TC_Hydro has a huge install base, but very few users who don't use it very much. If there was enough of a clamor for it, new servers would've opened by now as it would take no effort at all to get one running.
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Fine. A serious discussion was taking place, and I kinda thought it was funny, although, it was a hotel. I was pointing something out for those of us who dont speak german...
Blackmesa wouldn't have a fanbase if it didn't have eGO. Simple as. It's a map that is never on any other servers. It's like any other of those maps (love/hate - warpath for example). Lets look at something, I hadn't played hydro until a month or two back (just after the swamp theme came out) and I've had the game over a year. Why? No servers ever offered it really, so no servers = no fanbase. Blackmesa is disliked by many, and so is hydro, yet there are still the people who enjoy playing those maps, so why shun hydro out just because mesa has a thriving population always contributing to it. I see threads like: BlackMesa News get 4 pages while things like: Outback RC get a meager 2 pages. Just because a map is popular on one server, with the same regulars doesnt mean it's more popular than hydro, just that more people might play it casually. I don't see how statistics prove anything when if eGO weren't here, mesa wouldnt be as popular as it is, simple. I bet you've never even heard of some awsome custom maps such as:
arena_blackwoods
ctf_aurora
cp_mudslide
cp_stark
Which are still in development, yet are still great, even if they don't look very pretty.
Blackmesa wouldn't have a fanbase if it didn't have eGO. Simple as. It's a map that is never on any other servers. It's like any other of those maps (love/hate - warpath for example). Lets look at something, I hadn't played hydro until a month or two back (just after the swamp theme came out) and I've had the game over a year. Why? No servers ever offered it really, so no servers = no fanbase. Blackmesa is disliked by many, and so is hydro, yet there are still the people who enjoy playing those maps, so why shun hydro out just because mesa has a thriving population always contributing to it. I see threads like: BlackMesa News get 4 pages while things like: Outback RC get a meager 2 pages. Just because a map is popular on one server, with the same regulars doesnt mean it's more popular than hydro, just that more people might play it casually. I don't see how statistics prove anything when if eGO weren't here, mesa wouldnt be as popular as it is, simple. I bet you've never even heard of some awsome custom maps such as:
arena_blackwoods
ctf_aurora
cp_mudslide
cp_stark
Which are still in development, yet are still great, even if they don't look very pretty.
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If they combined all those maps into a server I would like it but just tc_hydro well... maybe but I like a lot of the other TC maps as well.
I am not sure where you are getting your facts, but I would like to kindly disagree. Over the three month period of my tc_hydro being up, I would range about 70 hours a week playing TF2. I would ONLY play my server, and this is where I would idle. I know for a fact that I have been on the map tc_hydro for over 193 hours, and I have probably played it for longer than that, rather than just idling.
And the point of this thread is to bring up a past test that turned out higher than what I thought would happen, much higher. The reason I came to eGO was because my server went down, and I was just sharing some knowledge about the TF2 fanbase with eGO. I was making a suggestion that if eGO was looking for a new server, that they should think about a hydro only server. If you do want to try it out, I can set the server up, or send you a server.cfg for it.
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Sorry, I neglected to mention that I hate pretty much every custom map ever.
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Heh, well, how many have you tried? I know for a fact meridian is fun (I was in many of the beta tests) dont knock it till ya try it ;-)
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I know of at least one server that surpasses all our servers in rank right now.
With our highest 10 ranks lower. I think this is the proof (and the only 24/7 hydro I can find out there, it seems to be on rotation more than anything)
So... umm. Yeah.
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Guess you could say the same about other maps, warpath, arena and so on. Although, there are some servers with high ranked of each of these.
EDIT THE SECOND: My point here is, maybe if we had less servers, the tf2 population would be condensed into keeping a littler amount of servers fuller - longer. If we had only a 24/7 Hydro, would you still play in eGO for the great atmosphere? I would.
Your forget that saigns uses a mod which speeds up the game, it also makes it such that any player can come on and try out premium accounts for, think infinite ammo, infinite cloak, double move speed, +50 health per kill, all that.
Hydro is a crap map, why should we have it on our servers?
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"Hydro is a crap map" How often have you played it? Did you say no to it within the first hour or did you play it for a while before making your choice. The map isn't crap, hell, no map is crap. They all just need improved, some more than others. The main "problem" with hydro is all the negativity it gets. If more people put it onto servers, more people would play it, more new players would anyway. (My first map I played was 2fort, it's now my fav map. See how this works?) I get annoyed when people trash talk a map and dont look at the OP. He said that his server got within the 100 rank, so why wouldn't an eGO server get there. The problem with the TF2 division is too many servers. If we had 3, everybody would be fighting to get in those three, if people enjoy eGO for it's atmosphere then surely people of eGO would play hydro, rather than wait an hour to get into another of the servers. I'd love to see eGO have 24 man servers, with all the maps original settings, of different maps.
(Say, 1 2fort, 1 badlands, 1 granary, 1 dustbowl, 1 blackmesa, 1 goldrush)
24 man servers I find are better than 32 man, mainly because many computers take a performance hit when they pass 24 man. It becomes more spammy after 24 man, and it generally unbalances the game somewhat.
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That's because anything over 24 man is a spam match.
Look at the servers you've suggested, that alone tells me your level of play, if we're going to raise the playstandards, we should be having more Gravelpit, and Well...
The only reason Hydro gets all the negativity is because almost all of that negativity is well backed up with evidence to show it, it's not us flaming the map, it's the Hydro players in denial that the map they play is heavily imbalanced and runs into spamfests with chokepoints all around.
Speaking as a player with competitive experience, I'll tell you there's a reason Hydro's not a competitive map... I'll leave you to figure it out for yourself.
Hydro descends into a sentry campfest half the time, pseudo-dustbowl 2-2 50% of the time, and a steamroll another 50% of the time, yep, it's 150% of fail.
You want solid statistics, I'll give them to you, why is the valve map server so rarely on Hydro despite mapvoting? Hint: It's not because of rtv...
Keep it civil please. There's no need to bash people or their competitive experience. If you haven't noticed, eGO isn't a comp. clan, so don't expect everyone to think like a 'pro'.
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Level of play? By mapchoice? I play on customs now, because mostly, they are better than valve maps imo. More polish to them. I listed maps that first came to mind. Hydro is way to large for 6 on 6, and is probably the main reason why, they are also asymmetrical which is another. You can't come out and insult me and my "level of play" I'm not the best, I'm also not the worst. I enjoy playing a game, and don't feel the need to go comp. Hydro is a sexy map, most people don't look at the amount of detail that is put into it, and think, if Dustbowl 2-2 descends into a sentryfest, yet is still winnable, then why is hydro all sucky because of a problem that can be killed with good teamwork (spies going in before ubers, and ubers wiping out the SGs and players) the problem doesn't lie in the map, it lies in the mentality of the players.
Sure the saigns.de servers use mods and stuff, but they're always full unlike eGO servers, so people obviously enjoy something about them, or is it just a whole load of idiots on their servers that have a terrible level of play, unlike your uber leet awsome level of play and you're king of the world? Huh, I'll let you decide since you seem to be trying to change my opinion on a map, that seriously, does work with teamwork. cp maps can be rolled, but nobody complains. 2fort turns into a turtlefest, people complain. Is it any cp maps that seem to neglect being a spamfest/sentryfest/crap map.
Sure the saigns.de servers use mods and stuff, but they're always full unlike eGO servers, so people obviously enjoy something about them, or is it just a whole load of idiots on their servers that have a terrible level of play, unlike your uber leet awsome level of play and you're king of the world? Huh, I'll let you decide since you seem to be trying to change my opinion on a map, that seriously, does work with teamwork. cp maps can be rolled, but nobody complains. 2fort turns into a turtlefest, people complain. Is it any cp maps that seem to neglect being a spamfest/sentryfest/crap map.
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