...Scout update is Spy update in disguise. *Massive conspiracy warning.*

Based on Valve's class update the Spy was supposed to have gotten updated in October, also I thought Valve might have done that for the Spy,
so now I can't want even more for this update to come out.
 
Captain Kraken said:
You are not the first to make this suggestion, so no, you didn't "call" it.

As for your theories:

Reasons 1, 2, and 3 are based solely on cosmetic changes, wich if that is a reason for conspiricy, there are 1000's of conspiricies in everything.

The Sandman model, is a different model. Not just a reskin. Wich is the same for every other weapon for TF2's unlockables. Him holding it the same way as he did the other bat means they are just reusing animation. Wich they did for Natascha, Backburner, Axetinguisher, Ubersaw and so on.

In one of your "reasons" for it being a spy update, you claim Valve does a lot of these things because they like to be as lazy as possable. So why make a new can model for BONK! if they already have one at thier disposal?

Your biased against the Egypt map is obvious, it shouldn't even be used in an argument, so I won't bother taking too long to counter-point. I hate Turbine. A lot. (Yes I went there) Doens't mean they didn't add it. As for it fitting style, sure it isn't in Nevada Desert or the mountains, but it still has the freehanded stylized look of Team Fortress 2, so I welcome it. You forget, in the TF2 mythos, they have bases all over the world. (ironically usually 60 feet from each other)

Again, why make a new model for a can they have already.

You say they won't add new animations because they are lazy as possable. I suggest you start up TF2, go to the Commentary section, pick Well, and run around until you find the node that explains where your taunts came from.

Again, the baseball is purely cosmetic. Just because they are being lazy with thier display page doesn't mean its fake. Honestly, only those looking for flaws are going to freak out over a rotated/scaled picture of a baseball.

Since everyone can make achievment Icons, including Valve, why is that an argument? Did someone else make the page? No. It was Valve. Wich means if it were fake or not, Icons would have been made, making your point moot.

For reason 11. Read thier blog. 2 letters and a number for you, L 4 D.

You are right, it would be epic if it were really a spy update in disguise. And yes, Valve can be pretty lazy, yes, Egypt isnt the best map ever. But these are not support for a theory proving it. If they were going to make it a fake update, they would do everything they could to hide the fact, not foster clues. If they didn't someone (you in this case) would attempt to spill the secret, and soften the epic impact the update would have had on the community.

Sorry for pouring lava on your parade (rain is for wussies).

Finally a side note. If they were going to do an "Update is a Spy" thing, they will do it while using the engineer as the fall-guy. It fits too much in the TF2 mainstream for it to be anything else.
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The man speaks the truth :].......

Phoenix once again you're like 20 posts late >.>

So you didn't call it :]

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806084&highlight=scout+update+fake

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806174&highlight=Scout+bullcrap

BTW....you know how valve kept delaying the update even though they were done helping left 4 dead? Well maybe it was delayed cause they were trying to do all the animations?! DUUUUUR?! XD Maybe :P
 
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that update's a spy!
 
This title is straight off TF2 blog, in September.

Gentlemen,
September 17, 2008 - Robin Walker
 
Join me in a prayer for multicore support! *Hummina Hummina Hummina Hummina Hooo*

I couldn't care less what else happens... I just want my framerate back!
 
also, lets look at heavy's main page vs scout's main page. the heavy's render is better quality than the scout's IMO. and his stern face makes me think it could be spy.
 
OMG! I just found this on the steam forums!
SPY.jpg


Lol, sorry, it was an edit... i thought it was real, somebody photoshopped this.
 
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i think those are just coincidences, i think if they were gonna do something like that they would make everything more clever looking
 
Your theory is interesting, and I wish to subscribe to your magazine :D

I'd also like to say: THE UPDATE IS A SPY!!!




LOL
 
I already called this out, just didn't start my own thread. I can't wait til Tuesday. Sorry college, maybe next week I'll pay more attention to you.
 
My View

I think I share sentiment with most when I say that, if Valve had a cunning plan to release a 'spy update' they would have bailed and gone to plan scout by now.

Two threads in the official Steam forums, I don't think they'd bother. If only to prevent all the "I told you so" comments that would start erupting everywhere imaginable.
 
A while back, I thought that Valve said they would be releasing two new class updates together... might just be me though!
 
Phoenix Wright said:
Here are my reasons for saying so.

1. The URL for the scout update is different than the others. i.e. Pyro/Heavy/Goldrush were as follows: steamgames.com/tf2/pyro, /heavy, /goldrush, etc. This one is /scoutupdate.

2. Very slight difference in the TF2 logos, as seen here.

BIG IMAGE O.O

3. The Scout on the main update page is pathetically non anti-aliased. Compared to the other update pages, it looks like they drew it in Paint.

4. The Mr. Sandman model on the front page, if you look carefully, is a bat skin. The top of it still has that round top to it. And his hands clip the handle weird, like they do on the bat.

5. BONK! supposedly provides a speed increase, but they have not provided a %. In the Heavy update, they provided %'s regarding Natascha. Also, on the BONK! page, he's not actually HOLDING BONK!. Which furthers my theory that it's just a skinned 2fort can.

6. CP_Egypt is a horrible, horrible map that doesn't match TF2's style at all. And it sucks.

7. If you look at BONK!, it's one of those smashed bottles on 2Fort. But with a different logo. ANYONE can do that. Well, I can't. But skinners can.

8. The stunned effect doesn't follow TF2's style at all. Neither does Egypt. Also, they'll have to reanimate every class to have a stunned animation. And Valve likes to be as lazy as possible.

9. The Sandman page has two images of a baseball. They're the same image, just scaled and rotated. You'd assume baseballs would spin. Sorta like demo grenades. Here's a video I found for proof.

10. Sure, they did achievement icons. But everyone does those. Remember the fake spy update picture? Those are easy to just make up.


11. Why the hell would the Spy update disguise as the Scout update, you ask? Its slower speed would give it awa... wait a minute. This update was released six months after the last one...


In short, this is the Spy update in disguise. Which will be pretty damn epic, if they pull it off. And if they DO pull it off, I totally called it.
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1. /scout is the "Meet the Scout" video.

2. That (R) is missing on the Blog logo aswell. (Maybe some new guy doing this update page?)

3. Rushed update page? Save time? (Maybe some new guy doing this update page?)

4. Rushed update page? Save time? (Maybe some new guy doing this update page?)

5. Because he's holding the other unlockable, the Force-A-Nature. Look at the achivements.

6. Haven't played the map, so I don't know. Maybe Valve tweaked it?

7. They probably just took it has a temporary model on the update page, because they weren't 100% on the real model.

8. I don't think that will be in the game, it's just for visual explanation.

9. Rushed update page? Save time? You said something about Valve being lazy.

10. Yeah, they made the achivement icons...

11. That seems a bit far-fetched. They were busy with L4D?


Buuut anyway, I think it's the spy update aswell. Or maybe it's just whishful thinking..

But what ever update this is, I'm cool with it. Scout & Spy is my favourite classes.
 
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